Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

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And thats what Espinoza claimed was offered $40 million 35% revenue... Floyd is saying "they not getting that".. How can Pac/Arum sign for something Floydie wont even agree to?


no, it was not. It was 40 mil no PPV, then 40 mil with 40% which Floyd said Pac is not getting. You'd be stupid to reward him
 

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You believe this offer is better then the one he originally offered? Serious question.
It doesn't matter because Floydie wont agree to "this offer" and is currently reaching out to Cotto's people...

Floyd claims they're begging for "the same money" which was 40 million no ppv...

Espinoza is claiming they offered Pac 40 million with a 35% upside..

Either Espinosa is lying OR he's telling the truth, but Floyd wont agree to fight Pac with that revenue split... The hold up seems to be completely on Floyd's side.
 

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Arum keeps saying that there working on canelo cotto.. Said next Monday or Tuesday they will know.

Just shows arum and cotto are continuing to work with each other.

Cotto is just using Floyd for leverage.. So who will Floyd fight if it's not cotto?.. Also it's not going to be on the date he wants cuz arum is not going to allow manny to fight on the day canelo cotto fight cuz arum getting a cuz from that.

A Floyd PAC fight would be on a different day for sure now
 

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no, it was not. It was 40 mil no PPV, then 40 mil with 40% which Floyd said Pac is not getting. You'd be stupid to reward him
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:mjlol: breh STFU

Floyd said."THEY ARE BEGGING FOR THE SAME MONEY, THEY NOT GETTING THAT"

Floyd NEVER offered Pac a 40% rev split in the 2011 negotiations, so wtf are you talking about??
 

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It doesn't matter because Floydie wont agree to "this offer" and is currently reaching out to Cotto's people...

Floyd claims they're begging for "the same money" which was 40 million no ppv...

Espinoza is claiming they offered Pac 40 million with a 35% upside..

Either Espinosa is lying OR he's telling the truth, but Floyd wont agree to fight Pac with that revenue split... The hold up seems to be completely on Floyd's side.
The hold up is on Floyd's side? If Pac is accepting of whatever revenue (his words) then this fight would be done, correct? If Floyd is reaching out to Cotto it's because of Arum trying to get a Canelo - Cotto AND Floyd - Pac payday. Hence the Cinco DE Mayo bullshyt..
 

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The hold up is on Floyd's side? If Pac is accepting of whatever revenue (his words) then this fight would be done, correct? If Floyd is reaching out to Cotto it's because of Arum trying to get a Canelo - Cotto AND Floyd - Pac payday. Hence the Cinco DE Mayo bullshyt..
but thats not what we're arguing breh :mjpls: You said the hold up is beacause Arum wont sign the 65/35 split.. Im just pointing out that Floyd isn't in agreement with the split Espinosa claimed he offered 3 mths ago...

Arum getting a payday shouldn't be none of Floyds concern as long as Floyd gets his Showtime purse guarantee why he all in another nikkas pockets like a hoe?
 

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but thats not what we're arguing breh :mjpls: You said the hold up is beacause Arum wont sign the 65/35 split.. Im just pointing out that Floyd isn't in agreement with the split Espinosa claimed he offered 3 mths ago...

Arum getting a payday shouldn't be none of Floyds concern as long as Floyd gets his Showtime purse guarantee why he all in another nikkas pockets like a hoe?
It ain't about Arum getting paid... It's about the date. Arum tried to muscle him, Floyd back doored him. This is business, and they both are making business moves. Now if Arum can get that Cinco DE Mayo money with Canelo /Cotto he has no problem with the split. We know Pac has no problem, he's not even in negotiations....but we get no fight if Arum doesn't get his hands in both pots? It's business, but if you don't see that as a blatant wall....
 

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All BS aside brehs, if this fight does not happen which one does it hurt more?


Manny already is a hall of famer just like MAY, but which one does this hurt more?

I do not think that the boxing community will have to through this with a different fighter ever again. The new guys like Broner and Canelo that will probably take the place of MAY and PAC look like they want to fight whoever whenever. I think this fight not happening will serve as a constant reminder to those that are coming up in the boxing world that to be the best, you gotta beat the best. I got a feeling that PAC and MAY will look back at this not happening and feel ashamed. Because both of them would make all types of money plus this fight couldve been a great trilogy.
 

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All BS aside brehs, if this fight does not happen which one does it hurt more?


Manny already is a hall of famer just like MAY, but which one does this hurt more?

I do not think that the boxing community will have to through this with a different fighter ever again. The new guys like Broner and Canelo that will probably take the place of MAY and PAC look like they want to fight whoever whenever. I think this fight not happening will serve as a constant reminder to those that are coming up in the boxing world that to be the best, you gotta beat the best. I got a feeling that PAC and MAY will look back at this not happening and feel ashamed. Because both of them would make all types of money plus this fight couldve been a great trilogy.

Itll hurt Mayweather more of course. Hes already seen as a coward by his son. Casual fans feel hes ducked Pacquiao. Pacquiao is revered by his country, and recognized as an all action great in this country. Ducked and dodged NOBODY. History will not ever let Floyd forget what he did with his career when he signed with Al Haymon and became a welterweight.
 

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It ain't about Arum getting paid... It's about the date. Arum tried to muscle him, Floyd back doored him. This is business, and they both are making business moves. Now if Arum can get that Cinco DE Mayo money with Canelo /Cotto he has no problem with the split. We know Pac has no problem, he's not even in negotiations....but we get no fight if Arum doesn't get his hands in both pots? It's business, but if you don't see that as a blatant wall....
but the date dont got shyt to do with Arum breh, thats Oscar and Canelo ESPECIALLY pushing for that date.. Cotto says he doesn't care about the date, just the ends.. and Oscar has said that they're backing off that date IF FLOYD AGREES TO FIGHTS MANNY...

So of its really about the date as you claim.. All Floydie has to do is agree to fight Pacquiao, but Floydie wont even agree to the offer made by Espinosa, so how could you not see that Floydie is the hold up?
 
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