FLOYD MAYWEATHER BLASTS STEPHEN A. SMITH: "I DON'T GIVE TWO FLYING F**KS WHAT STEPHEN A. SMITH SAY..

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Lets not act like Floyd and Pacquiao have the same leverage

Floyd is in near, if not completely full control of his career.


Manny is still very much a worker under Arum.

Floyd still has to pay GB $10 million before a fight.. GB still signs his checks.. If he was in so much control he wouldn't need them.. Manny is signed to a promotional company.. There's nothing bizarre or strange about it... Manny's promotional company offered Floyd a $50 million purse plus a huge percentage of back end and he turned it down.. 50 cent even exposed the fact that Floyd walked away from a $100 million.. has nothing to do with this imaginary leverage Floyd and his stans think he has.. He's ducking.. doesn't want the fight...
 
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Floyd still has to pay GB $10 million before a fight.. GB still signs his checks.. If he was in so much control he wouldn't need them.. Manny is signed to a promotional company.. There's nothing bizarre or strange about it... Manny's promotional company offered Floyd a $50 million purse plus a huge percentage of back end and he turned it down.. 50 cent even exposed the fact that Floyd walked away from a $100 million.. has nothing to do with this imaginary leverage Floyd and his stans think he has.. He's ducking.. doesn't want the fight...


Yeah I know that part:wow:

Im just pointing out the fact that floyd has (or at least gives the appearance that he has) 100% control over who he fights. So if he wanted to or is trying to pursue the fight he can put major momentum in seeing the talks go through.
Manny doesnt have the power he does.

But Floyd rather say he got Marquez problems and demand some outrageous split. Its only going to get worse being that Manny is definitely B side this time around.
 

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Yeah I know that part:wow:

Im just pointing out the fact that floyd has (or at least gives the appearance that he has) 100% control over who he fights. So if he wanted to or is trying to pursue the fight he can put major momentum in seeing the talks go through.
Manny doesnt have the power he does.

But Floyd rather say he got Marquez problems and demand some outrageous split. Its only going to get worse being that Manny is definitely B side this time around.

Floyd can be the A side, but being A side doesn't mean he has to have complete control over purse splits and revenue split.. Being A side means you get a larger split... Floyd wanted to dictate a top rank fighter's purse and keep all the ppv revenue. Which was pretty much Floyd saying he didn't want the fight because in order to co promote, you have to share ppv revenue... Its not even about money with him when it comes to Pacquiao. He wont even consider fighting him unless he stands on Pac's neck on some type of power trip... Not to long ago Pac had Bradley and Marquez problems and Pac had to leave Top Rank and sign to Mayweather promotions for the fight to happen
 

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STEVEN SMITH says things for RATINGS from a SENSATIONAL STANDPOINT..so I can understand MAYWEATHER's anger...


first and formost to address the MAYWEATHER/PACQUAIO issue without acknowledging the BUSINESS CONFLICT is IGNORANT :ufdup:


1. MAYWEATHER use to be signed to BOB ARUM the same BOB ARUM whom he had to take to COURT for STEALING from him....

2. BOB ARUM is a puppetmaster who doesn't have the fighters intrest at hand..which explains why Pacquaio is having tax problems...
something MAYWEATHER warned him about

3. MAYWEAHTER has stated multiple times HE WOULD FIGHT Pac if BOB ARUM is NOT involved...because not only of Bob's bad business practices but he takes shyt personally against Floyd

4. BOB ARUM works with HBO whom FLOYD stop fukking with when HBO racist exec Greenberg hated on FLOYD for running with AL HAYMON and not statying stuck to BOB ARUM and his slave deals as former PAC trainer ALEX ARIZA stated...

5. BOB ARUM like LOU DUVA got mob ties and often cosign mob bets which also involve fighters taking dives as well as giving them DRUGS and STEROIDS as described by former DUVA boxer a Caucasian named Rusty Rosenberg
http://ringtalk.com/lou-duva-rusty-rosenberger-new-jersey-mob-drugs-boxing

6. MAYWEATHER AND AL HAYMON got a SHOWTIME DEAL ....pac and bob arum are in a subordinate position wear it would be in their best intrest to conform to MAYWEATHER TERMS since MAYWEATHER isn't fukking with HBO....

7. MAYWEATHER PROMOTIONS led by FLOYD OFFERED pac 40 MILL UP FRONT ...........JUST TO SHOW UP ..........bob arum got him wanting HALF of the PPV gate which is ridiculous considering MAYWEATHER DON'T NEED PAC TO DO PPV NUMBERS

8. PAC should cross over to MAYWEATHER AND AL HAYMON now that CAUSE THEY WILL DO HIM business wise

9. PAYDAY MAWYEATHER IS NOT GONNA PASS UP THIS HISTORICAL PAY DAY...HE DON'T FEAR PAC.....JUST WANT BUISNESS RIGHT

10. PAC LOST ....HE NEEDS THIS FIGHT MORE THAN MAYWEATHER NEEDS IT.....
 

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STEVEN SMITH says things for RATINGS from a SENSATIONAL STANDPOINT..so I can understand MAYWEATHER's anger...


first and formost to address the MAYWEATHER/PACQUAIO issue without acknowledging the BUSINESS CONFLICT is IGNORANT :ufdup:


1. MAYWEATHER use to be signed to BOB ARUM the same BOB ARUM whom he had to take to COURT for STEALING from him....

2. BOB ARUM is a puppetmaster who doesn't have the fighters intrest at hand..which explains why Pacquaio is having tax problems...
something MAYWEATHER warned him about

3. MAYWEAHTER has stated multiple times HE WOULD FIGHT Pac if BOB ARUM is NOT involved...because not only of Bob's bad business practices but he takes shyt personally against Floyd

4. BOB ARUM works with HBO whom FLOYD stop fukking with when HBO racist exec Greenberg hated on FLOYD for running with AL HAYMON and not statying stuck to BOB ARUM and his slave deals as former PAC trainer ALEX ARIZA stated...

5. BOB ARUM like LOU DUVA got mob ties and often cosign mob bets which also involve fighters taking dives as well as giving them DRUGS and STEROIDS as described by former DUVA boxer a Caucasian named Rusty Rosenberg
http://ringtalk.com/lou-duva-rusty-rosenberger-new-jersey-mob-drugs-boxing

6. MAYWEATHER AND AL HAYMON got a SHOWTIME DEAL ....pac and bob arum are in a subordinate position wear it would be in their best intrest to conform to MAYWEATHER TERMS since MAYWEATHER isn't fukking with HBO....

7. MAYWEATHER PROMOTIONS led by FLOYD OFFERED pac 40 MILL UP FRONT ...........JUST TO SHOW UP ..........bob arum got him wanting HALF of the PPV gate which is ridiculous considering MAYWEATHER DON'T NEED PAC TO DO PPV NUMBERS

8. PAC should cross over to MAYWEATHER AND AL HAYMON now that CAUSE THEY WILL DO HIM business wise

9. PAYDAY MAWYEATHER IS NOT GONNA PASS UP THIS HISTORICAL PAY DAY...HE DON'T FEAR PAC.....JUST WANT BUISNESS RIGHT

10. PAC LOST ....HE NEEDS THIS FIGHT MORE THAN MAYWEATHER NEEDS IT.....


Why do you have all of this red? And why are you telling us shyt that we already know?
 

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@The HONORABLE SKJ , post: 10444275, member: 3716"]STEVEN SMITH says things for RATINGS from a SENSATIONAL STANDPOINT..so I can understand MAYWEATHER's anger...


first and formost to address the MAYWEATHER/PACQUAIO issue without acknowledging the BUSINESS CONFLICT is IGNORANT :ufdup:


1. MAYWEATHER use to be signed to BOB ARUM the same BOB ARUM whom he had to take to COURT for STEALING from him....

Both sides sued and counter sued saying the other owed money..
:comeon: Tell the whole story
Regardless, it didn't syop Floyd from agreeing to work with Arum in 09.. As soon as Pac agreed to all Floyds tests, then all of a sudden "bu bu but Arum pwe me money":childplease:


2. BOB ARUM is a puppetmaster who doesn't have the fighters intrest at hand..which explains why Pacquaio is having tax problems...
something MAYWEATHER warned him about...

None of this bullshyt is a real reason why the fight cant happen.. Just p*ssy ass excuses spewed by Floyd and his dumbass stans :umad:


3. MAYWEAHTER has stated multiple times HE WOULD FIGHT Pac if BOB ARUM is NOT involved...because not only of Bob's bad business practices but he takes shyt personally against Floyd

Again... It was all good back in 09 when they first negotiated.. When Pac agrees to the tests, looks good against Shane and Margarito, then its a problem.. Nothing wrong with Top Ranks "business practices".. Floyd just needs to stop trying to dictate everything, Negotiate a fair split and sign the fight.. SIMPLE


4. BOB ARUM works with HBO whom FLOYD stop fukking with when HBO racist exec Greenberg hated on FLOYD for running with AL HAYMON and not statying stuck to BOB ARUM and his slave deals as former PAC trainer ALEX ARIZA stated...

Floyd had worked with HBO multiple times after his split with Bob.. WTF are you talking about?? :dahell: Listen to Alex Ariza brehs :mjlol:

5. BOB ARUM like LOU DUVA got mob ties and often cosign mob bets which also involve fighters taking dives as well as giving them DRUGS and STEROIDS as described by former DUVA boxer a Caucasian named Rusty Rosenberg
http://ringtalk.com/lou-duva-rusty-rosenberger-new-jersey-mob-drugs-boxing

:smugfavre: Nothing in that link says anything about Top Rank or Arum.. Everything you've posted is conjecture
6. MAYWEATHER AND AL HAYMON got a SHOWTIME DEAL ....pac and bob arum are in a subordinate position wear it would be in their best intrest to conform to MAYWEATHER TERMS since MAYWEATHER isn't fukking with HBO....
Aint no subordinate position.. Whether Floyd fights Pacquiao on Showtime, HBO, or PBS, floyd could make at least $100 mill.. Again, just more excuses from Floyd and his stans.. Floyd is fighting Showime because he still NEEDS Golden Boy, and Richard Schaefer ruined the relationship with HBO. Hopefully Oscar can mend the fences

7. MAYWEATHER PROMOTIONS led by FLOYD OFFERED pac 40 MILL UP FRONT ...........JUST TO SHOW UP ..........bob arum got him wanting HALF of the PPV gate which is ridiculous considering MAYWEATHER DON'T NEED PAC TO DO PPV NUMBERS

Mayweather promotions aint shyt... Floyd cant move without Goldenboy promotions...Pacquiao is a TOP Rank fighter... Floyd wanted to keep all the back end revenue and thats impossible if two companies have to co-promote... whether he was scared or not, Floyd didn't want the fight... And yes Floydie does NEED Pacquiao to do the numbers they're set to get of they ever fight... Not to mention at the time, Floyd and Pac were doing around the same in ppv and gate

8. PAC should cross over to MAYWEATHER AND AL HAYMON now that CAUSE THEY WILL DO HIM business wise

will they?? Back in 2011 when Floyd and Pac were putting up similar numbers, Floyd wanted to keep all the ppv/backend revenue.. what makes you think they will gove Pac a fair shake now if he were to leave Arum?? Why cant they just agree to co-promote like they have

9. PAYDAY MAWYEATHER IS NOT GONNA PASS UP THIS HISTORICAL PAY DAY...HE DON'T FEAR PAC.....JUST WANT BUISNESS RIGHT
:
usure: he just threatened to fire his daddy and emotionally lashes out at ANYONE who speaks on the fight possibly happening

10. PAC LOST ....HE NEEDS THIS FIGHT MORE THAN MAYWEATHER NEEDS IT.....

Pac's career is already cemented? Neither fighter needs this fight

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Floyd still has to pay GB $10 million before a fight.. GB still signs his checks.. If he was in so much control he wouldn't need them.. Manny is signed to a promotional company.. There's nothing bizarre or strange about it... Manny's promotional company offered Floyd a $50 million purse plus a huge percentage of back end and he turned it down.. 50 cent even exposed the fact that Floyd walked away from a $100 million.. has nothing to do with this imaginary leverage Floyd and his stans think he has.. He's ducking.. doesn't want the fight...

:comeon:

Dude...this is the BUSINESS OF BOXING

Its almost impossible to have a FIGHT without CROSS PROMOTION with another promoter

Arum's TOP RANK in association with Duva's MAIN EVENT

MAYWEATHER PROMOTIONS in association with GOLDEN BOY promotions

This has to happen ever since Boxing got deregulated and Promoters like Haymon..Arum and Duva got to double as Managers and Promoters

So the old days of one promoter being SOLE ENTITY is long over especially when HBO entered the game and promoted as well

The reason Mayweather cross promotes with GOLDEN BOY is because GOLDEN BOY had the top Latino fighters that Mayweather needed

That bread that MAYWEATHER PROMOTIONS give GOLDEN BOY is thier cut for delivering the Latino fighter and promoting in the Latino market

And keep in mind I said HAD cause now AL HAYMON due to the generosity of former Golden Boy exec Richard Schaeffer has ties to a bulk of the GOLDEN BOY roster with the exception of Camelot ..Garcia and a few other notables since De LA Hoya took a short hiatus cause of Drug Rehab then turn around and betrayed Schaeffer by doing business with Arum.....

Didn't u see the news of MARCOS MAIDANA signing with AL HAYMON after being with GOLDEN BOY all these years??

:mjpls:

So now Arum and Golden Boy are CROSS PROMOTING via HBO......

So WHY IS IT A PROBLEM WHEN MAYWEATHER DOES CROSS PROMOTIONS? ? :why:

And I ain't gonna even respond to ur reply to my ten talking points about why the Pac Floyd fight won't happen

Cause it's obvious u got some PERSONAL BIAS against MAYWEATHER

Talking about it is some POWER EGO TRIP on Floyd part that is stopping this fight

When I just see it for what it is BUSINESS CONFLICTS..... :manny:
 
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Dude...this is the BUSINESS OF BOXING

Its almost impossible to have a FIGHT without CROSS PROMOTION with another promoter

Arum's TOP RANK in association with Duva's MAIN EVENT

MAYWEATHER PROMOTIONS in association with GOLDEN BOY promotions

This has to happen ever since Boxing got deregulated and Promoters like Haymon..Arum and Duva got to double as Managers and Promoters

So the old days of one promoter being SOLE ENTITY is long over especially when HBO entered the game and promoted as well

The reason Mayweather cross promotes with GOLDEN BOY is because GOLDEN BOY had the top Latino fighters that Mayweather needed

That bread that MAYWEATHER PROMOTIONS give GOLDEN BOY is thier cut for delivering the Latino fighter and promoting in the Latino market

And keep in mind I said HAD cause now AL HAYMON due to the generosity of former Golden Boy exec Richard Schaeffer has ties to a bulk of the GOLDEN BOY roster with the exception of Camelot ..Garcia and a few other notables since De LA Hoya took a short hiatus cause of Drug Rehab then turn around and betrayed Schaeffer by doing business with Arum.....

Didn't u see the news of CANELO ALVAREZ signing with AL HAYMON after being with GOLDEN BOY all these years??

:mjpls:

So now Arum and Golden Boy are CROSS PROMOTING via HBO......

So WHY IS IT A PROBLEM WHEN MAYWEATHER DOES CROSS PROMOTIONS? ? :why:

And I ain't gonna even respond to ur reply to my ten talking points about why the Pac Floyd fight won't happen

Cause it's obvious u got some PERSONAL BIAS against MAYWEATHER

Talking about it is some POWER EGO TRIP on Floyd part that is stopping this fight

When I just see it for what it is BUSINESS CONFLICTS..... :manny:

boxing deregulated?!! cross promotions impossible>?!!! what the hell are you talking about ? :mjlol:
 

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But f*ck both of them. Anything Skip Baseless says about boxing is completely irrelevant
 
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