Florida Gov. DeSantis will run for President in 2028

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Black ppl in NYC are around 20% of the pop, despite that, we are overrepresented in the homeless shelters (50% of shelter ppl are black), and are currently being pushed to the South or CT/PA due to being a poor group who can't afford NYC.

If you make hundreds of thousands of non-citizens suddenly eligible to vote locally, that makes our share of the overall NYC voting pop smaller. If we were 18% of the registered NYC voters prior, that number is definitely down due to more ppl being inserted in said voter population.


More ppl in the voting population not of us weakens our voting leverage to demand shyt from politicians, since we now represent less of the ppl voting in NYC now. My ppl need all the leverage we can get, so we can use that to demand resources to get allocated specifically to us from politicians.


Being that we both from ny...live and went to school here...
how can you have these opinions?
When has an immigrant in school, work, your neighborhood been shown to "weaken your leverage"?
 

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Black ppl in NYC are around 20% of the pop, despite that, we are overrepresented in the homeless shelters (50% of shelter ppl are black), and are currently being pushed to the South or CT/PA due to being a poor group who can't afford NYC.

If you make hundreds of thousands of non-citizens suddenly eligible to vote locally, that makes our share of the overall NYC voting pop smaller. If we were 18% of the registered NYC voters prior, that number is definitely down due to more ppl being inserted in said voter population.


More ppl in the voting population not of us weakens our voting leverage to demand shyt from politicians, since we now represent less of the ppl voting in NYC now. My ppl need all the leverage we can get, so we can use that to demand resources to get allocated specifically to us from politicians.
I could probably understand the dilution argument if we were talking beyond just municipal elections, but we're not. I don't believe this is a genuine concern either given your support for politicians who make meaningful efforts to weaken/deny out vote both on a local and national level.
 

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Being that we both from ny...live and went to school here...
how can you have these opinions?
When has an immigrant in school, work, your neighborhood been shown to "weaken your leverage"?

It hasn't affected me personally, but I'm seeing first hand how mass immigration is affecting my ppl often. I pass by homeless ppl often(many of them black, probably ADOS) who need mental help and other resources, meanwhile ppl who are here illegally can get city affordable housing.

Black businesses struggled/are struggling due to various covid policies and rarely got help, meanwhd congresspeople based out of NYC like Jamaal Bowman were advocating that illegal immigrants get stimulus money.
 

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It hasn't affected me personally, but I'm seeing first hand how mass immigration is affecting my ppl often. I pass by homeless ppl often(many of them black, probably ADOS) who need mental help and other resources, meanwhile ppl who are here illegally can get city affordable housing.

Black businesses struggled/are struggling due to various covid policies and rarely got help, meanwhd congresspeople based out of NYC like Jamaal Bowman were advocating that illegal immigrants get stimulus money.

Illegals can get housing over citizens?
Pardon me, yet I have never heard that.
If an immigrant has no social security number, what are they eligible for?

I am glad you used "personally", because that is exactly my point. You can say "the stats say, I see homeless who I think are ados" etc, yet YOU personally.

You are saying black people who immigrated from africa, caribbean etc who were starving and going homeless should not have been advocated for?
Do you not know any black immigrants?
Do they know how you feel?

The main reason I am asking you these questions, are that I have seen your posts and those from other new yorkers. I honestly cannot understand any new yorker having a problem with hispanics, caribbean, african or ANYONE else, as a WHOLE.
Even white people in ny are cool. Sure folks are hateful, I just have never gotten that vibe from any group.
 

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You can like certain policies a candidate touts, but disagree w/ the bulk of what they push for.

I agree w/ the socialist left take on taxing the rich, but disagree on their immigration policy and student debt cancellation.

It's okay to have nuance friend :obama:
But your politics are right wing and you’re Trump/Desantis supporter. :unimpressed:

Imagine citing agreement with “taxing the rich” during the period of the greatest income inequality in American history as evidence of your “nuance.” :dead:
 

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It hasn't affected me personally, but I'm seeing first hand how mass immigration is affecting my ppl often. I pass by homeless ppl often(many of them black, probably ADOS) who need mental help and other resources, meanwhile ppl who are here illegally can get city affordable housing.

Black businesses struggled/are struggling due to various covid policies and rarely got help, meanwhd congresspeople based out of NYC like Jamaal Bowman were advocating that illegal immigrants get stimulus money.
He advocated for families who pay taxes (mixed status or undocumented with children born here). He also advocated for more of that money to go towards supporting Black businesses and Black families. And various other community projects that benefit Black people. You are just an all around rotten person who gets off on people suffering. It's annoying how people like you try to dress it up and pass it off as being pro-Black when you don't really care.
 

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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a 15-week abortion ban into law Thursday as the state joined a growing conservative push to restrict access ahead of a U.S. Supreme Court decision that could limit the procedure nationwide.

The new law marks a significant blow to abortion access in the South, where Florida has provided wider access to the procedure than its regional neighbors.

The new law, which takes effect July 1, contains exceptions if the abortion is necessary to save a mother’s life, prevent serious injury or if the fetus has a fatal abnormality. It does not allow for exemptions in cases where pregnancies were caused by rape, incest or human trafficking. Under current law, Florida allows abortions up to 24 weeks.
 

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The only way the Democrats beat him if they are able to characterize him as a boogey man worse than trump.

I live here in Florida and I've got family all across this state. He's got his base/cult/followers... but a majority of the residents here cant stand the guy. I'm talking conservatives too. I don't understand how he can legally win re-election. I mean.. I know how he's going to.. but legally? No chance.
 

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I live here in Florida and I've got family all across this state. He's got his base/cult/followers... but a majority of the residents here cant stand the guy. I'm talking conservatives too. I don't understand how he can legally win re-election. I mean.. I know how he's going to.. but legally? No chance.


I talking about the national presidential election.
 
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