OfTheCross
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I might give her a shot...
I think the weed thing is hit and miss.
My mom is a life-long Dem, for example, but she's not for weed. That might be a deal-breaker if she knew Fried was trying to legalize it.
Florida Gov. DeSantis will run for President in 2028
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I might give her a shot...
I think the weed thing is hit and miss.
My mom is a life-long Dem, for example, but she's not for weed. That might be a deal-breaker if she knew Fried was trying to legalize it.
Fried is not beating desantis, but she will probably beat Christ in the primary.
GnauzBookOfRhymes
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ADevilYouKhow
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In Florida, the pandemic is worse now than it has ever been before.
When does DeSantis get his flowers?!?!
When does DeSantis get his flowers?!?!
88m3
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Piff Perkins
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You guys keep expecting/demanding Florida whites to return to reality. It's not happening. They don't give a fukk about the covid resurgence. They don't give a fukk about DeSantis punishing schools. End of the day their taxes are low, abortion clinics are closing, and "freedom" is preserved. He will cruise to re-election. As will Rubio.
Can DeSantis win a national election? Nah, probably not. But that's a moot point since Trump is running and will be the nominee.
Can DeSantis win a national election? Nah, probably not. But that's a moot point since Trump is running and will be the nominee.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
One last grift? Idk ....
88m3
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Godless Socialist CEO
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The man has made it very clear he doesn't give a fukk about kids. He's waging open biological warfare against children right now by banning mask mandates. Everything Republicans do is about making poor and POC's lives miserable
I’m going back and forth. He would love to grift his adoring fans one last time, but also his ego couldn’t handle another national stage L, especially if it’s to Scranton Joe again…
GnauzBookOfRhymes
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Trump is not running in 2024. The national party has already moved on from him. His power is local/regional. Once you're in your 70s, a lot goes downhill in just 3/4 years.
Regarding DeSantis the big advantage he'll have over either candidate is that GOP is close to overtaking the Dems in the number of registered voters. Amazingly enough even though Florida is now reliably "red", the Dems have actually always had a pretty sizable lead in registered voters. A lot of conservatives are moving to Florida bc of this reputation as a conservative oasis.
He also has close to $50M in the bank - by the time the election rolls around he might double that, esp if the presidential talk continues. Donors want to be able to say they supported him from the beginning.
The thing about covid is that even though his approach may not be popular you gotta realize that the overwhelming majority of the deaths/hospitalizations etc are among the unvaccinated - these are ppl that are going to support him anyways. Right now 62% of Floridians vaccinated. Obviously some of the 38% unvaccinated are kids, but just like EVERY other hot button issue there is a solid 30% who are fully onboard with the trumpian/desantis worldview. Only time will tell if the anti desantis sentiment is strong enough to last if covid is less of a story next year.
Crist would absolutely have a better shot against DeSantis. People already know him and he's always been considered a likable guy in the state. If something happens that causes support for DeSantis to crater (quid pro quo documented corruption or if we find out later on that way more ppl died in FL and that administration deliberately lied/covered up), voters IMO are more likely to revert to someone they know/like and feel is capable of the job. Unfortunately as a woman in a red state, Fried is going to start with a 5-10 pt deficit. These kinds of states will vote women/minorities into some statewide positions but not governor.
Regarding DeSantis the big advantage he'll have over either candidate is that GOP is close to overtaking the Dems in the number of registered voters. Amazingly enough even though Florida is now reliably "red", the Dems have actually always had a pretty sizable lead in registered voters. A lot of conservatives are moving to Florida bc of this reputation as a conservative oasis.
He also has close to $50M in the bank - by the time the election rolls around he might double that, esp if the presidential talk continues. Donors want to be able to say they supported him from the beginning.
The thing about covid is that even though his approach may not be popular you gotta realize that the overwhelming majority of the deaths/hospitalizations etc are among the unvaccinated - these are ppl that are going to support him anyways. Right now 62% of Floridians vaccinated. Obviously some of the 38% unvaccinated are kids, but just like EVERY other hot button issue there is a solid 30% who are fully onboard with the trumpian/desantis worldview. Only time will tell if the anti desantis sentiment is strong enough to last if covid is less of a story next year.
Crist would absolutely have a better shot against DeSantis. People already know him and he's always been considered a likable guy in the state. If something happens that causes support for DeSantis to crater (quid pro quo documented corruption or if we find out later on that way more ppl died in FL and that administration deliberately lied/covered up), voters IMO are more likely to revert to someone they know/like and feel is capable of the job. Unfortunately as a woman in a red state, Fried is going to start with a 5-10 pt deficit. These kinds of states will vote women/minorities into some statewide positions but not governor.
Godless Socialist CEO
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I’m starting to get this awful fear that conservatives might move to Orlando and fukk this little progressive haven
the next guy
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Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Don’t be so sure about that. He’s in political freefall right now.
This guy is running on a defund the schools platform. It’s not even popular with Republicans.
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Godless Socialist CEO
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He will 100% walk to re-election by 5+ points. Don’t play that game we already have. These polls are garbage. Just ask Biden and Gillum