Five Bleak Facts on Black Opportunity

[Poitier]

Why cant we focus on both?

This thread is specifically about wealth inequality in America.

 

[Yup]

This thread is specifically about wealth inequality in America.

Talking about marriage rates is a distraction from both the cause and solution for the specific topic of wealth inequality in America.

[quote Preaching against it is destructive to me though which is why I'm combating the rhetoric that marriage doesn't matter.

I've never spoken against marriage. And marriage does not matter for the specific topic presented in this thread.


Again in the context of this thread and the studies in the op. Wealth is the measurement of ownership:

To me personally wealth is happiness and prosperity.[/QUOTE]
I disagree that it is a distraction. It puts a human face/realistic view if anything. Public policy alone won't ensure wealth distribution.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I disagree that it is a distraction. It puts a human face/realistic view if anything. Public policy alone won't ensure wealth distribution.

Public policy is the ONLY thing that dictates wealth distribution.

The only thing talking about marriage does is takes the onus from the people in power, and places it on the powerless.

 

[Yup]

Public policy is the ONLY thing that dictates wealth distribution.

The only thing talking about marriage does is takes the onus from the people in power, and places it on the powerless.

Nope. It's saying that people cannot wait only on government to take charge of their lives. People-black people-need to acknowledge that the decisions can be a detriment in a society in which it is already an uphill battle. There is more strength in numbers than alone.

 

[Bugatti Biceps]

Why do all these race disparity charts that I have seen get posted lately constantly keep out Asian Americans?

Because they are doing better than the whites, and its not enough of them to really have a definitive say.

 

[Dzali OG]

Define wealth.

Ownership of resources which leads to power.

 

[Bugatti Biceps]

Right. That's why the focus should be on public policy solutions, not personal or familial ones. Black people promote this idea that "family structure" is the root of our problems because they think it's an easy fix.

Except those things require the assistance of others to want to help us. Asians aint voting for that shyt, they doing fine without it and its taking money out their pockets. Same with whites. The black family structure is the one thing we ourselves can fix without outside people helping.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Nope. It's saying that people cannot wait only on government to take charge of their lives.

No one said anything about waiting for government to do anything.

And the government already has charge of your life. That's the problem.

People-black people-need to acknowledge that the decisions can be a detriment in a society in which it is already an uphill battle. There is strength in numbers than alone.

Black peoples are ~15% regardless of what we do that's how much power we have alone. Only way to gain more power is to secure allies outside of our own.

 

[Red Shield]

Wealth is not built in a single generation

broad stays switching points

 

[Yup]

broad stays switching points

Either address the points or stay out of the conversation.

 

[Bugatti Biceps]

Exactly, because White Wealth has nothing to do with marriage.

In 2015? It doesn't. They have already built the wealth over generations, so whether Chad and Amber stay together or not, at the end of the day their wealth going to little Billy and Brittany, not LaKeisha or Tyrone. White people procreating with white people of the same socioeconomic status is keeping their wealth up regardless of marriage. They already built the wealth on our backs, the only way they lose it is if they give it away or some Asians come steal it away on the sneak like they have been.

 

[Poitier]

They already built the wealth on our back

Off our backs not marriage.

 

[Bugatti Biceps]

"Exclusion" has never been a benefit to any society.

What you are suggesting is for black people to purposely besiege ourselves within the white supremacy structure in America.

The Jews say hi.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The Jews say hi.

The Jews were handed resources throughout history all over the world, and are a part of the white power structure in America today.

They have not purposely excluded themselves from anyone.


All your arguments thus far have been based on stereotypes.

You have a lot of learning to do.

 

[Dzali OG]

It seems this guy believes it's ok to sire children with a woman (or women even) and the man not being there because women are responsible for rearing them not men. Traditional marriage is a modern, western convention that's not necessary per say in his opinion. Which would mean to say that for black people who are unmarried and single, the women raising kids, the men not there, doesn't really matter. It's just a different family structure that has nothing to do with wealth building, community building, etc. ...

It's a mentality that I don't agree with but now I see some men (and maybe women) aspire to this.. .

The father not living in the household does not mean he isn't supporting the household. White men didn't conquer this world by sitting home cooking. So considering the issue if nuclear families, whites didn't have this until white men were finished warring.