Finn is a Jedi

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Dr. Narcisse

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I wrote this right here on The Coli the NIGHT I saw Force Awakens


Now we're in and they've captured Phasma, and Finn gets his Kevin Hart on and hams it up for a couple minutes, while the cool Han Solo has to tell him to dial it down. A dangerous mission in the enemies base me you've got time to clown? fukking ridiculous, but still this is Finn's moment righ? His chance to rescue Rey and set it right, after all she did save him from the Alien earlier on right?

Nope, the ever resourceful Rey with her new found Jedi Powers has already escaped. Girl Power style!

Finn and Rey watch Han die by Kylo's hand. A very good and touching sequence I might add.

They flee into the snow. Kylo pursues them


And now the moment of truth. Finn's LAST chance at a truly heroic moment. No more running, no more hiding. The girl you've been jonesing for is knocked out, Kylo just called you a filthy traitor.


Your eyes steel

You grasp the lightsaber with determined vigor

You prepare to take Kylo Ren head on. This is your "destiny awakens" moment.

You lose.

Not ONLY do you lose, but your put in a coma.

This ends your chapter in The Force Awakens...


Poe Dameronn gets to heroically destroy the Star Killer

Rey wakes up, grabs the lightsaber, and having learned she has the force all of 24 hours, proceeds to kick Ren's Ass like she's Xena the Warror Princess.

Hell even BB8 gets to complete his mission and show the way to Luke Skywalker.


You Finn are in a coma.

No heroic moment, no redemption, no future arc for your character.]

The Black Male "Lead" ladies and gentleman:snoop:



He gets not ONE truly heroic moment in the ENTIRE GODDAMN FILM

He's saved EVERY SINGLE TIME

Leia got saved less throughout the entire OG trilogy

The FIRST human character in Star Wars cinema to wield a lightsaber and not be force sensitive

A liar, Coward, wise-cracking side kick. He literally spends the rest of the film after Han shows up as Either a victim or Rey's courier.

Rey is to chosen one, the new Jedi. Poe is the hotshot pilot, the best in the Resistance.

Finn...is in a Coma...

It's extremely insulting to say, that after Han shows up, you could've replaced Finn with Jar Jar Binks and gotten the same damn results. Finn's character was NOT treated with respect or dignity. They stripped him of what it looked like they were trying to give him in the beginning, the ability to exist as his own character. He's there to tell jokes (and be the but of them) voice reluctance and fear, and get saved to show how badass the OTHER characters are.

And you can already miss me with the "bu bu but...he'll GROW in episode 8!". Luke, Han, and Leia could ALL grow in episode 5 without being completely demoralized in ANH. Luke got his hero moment, so did Han and Leia, all were PROVEN that he possess heroic qualities. Finn was never allowed to PROVE my heroic qualities. Everything he attempted was accomplished by someone else....


The movie itself was a 7/10. Finn was a 4/10 and I'm giving him the 4 based on the promise he showed in the beginning, and BOYEGA's clear talent as an actor. He REALLY did his best with what he was given, he deserved better.


Black Characters deserve better.


I will not be looking forward to Episode 8. Unless they do an EXTREME makeover of Finn's character I won't be watching future installments. Disney took a great opportunity to make a black hero and flushed it in favor of the same stereotypes we've been told over and over that Hollywood is looking to change.

These are stories by white people FOR white people. The character of Finn is our nikka Wake Up Call that it will remain so for the foreseeable future.

I should've known better.
Well said breh:wow:



This part here about nuance



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One of the things I said that they could have easily done. Why not make Finn a PROVEN and highly respected Storm Trooper. A guy who has killed before and now his conscious is bothering him about who he is killing.

. Instead they made him a scared man who freaked out on his first mission (mind you he still killed people on the way out making you wonder why death bothered him in the first place).

He could have been someone with his own agency that wants to do better. Instead he does it for a girl who simply moves on after he gets put in a coma.


I know people blame Rian Johnson for The Last Jedi's use of Finn (Boyega included). However, after just how bad Finn's character was used in Force Awakens I dont blame him for not giving a fukk about him. How could you really fix it and make it super interesting to the plot. Rey is the chosen one and Finn was the clown.
 
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It all comes full circle. Wow

Props to Boyega for spitting the real. I know he was in a tough spot as an up and coming actor who landed what should've been an opportunity of a lifetime after years of grinding... only to find himself knee deep in more systematic racial bullshyt.

Before force awakens premiered i was boasting "Boseman and Boyega 2016" because it was clear the potential T'Challa and Finn could have for black male representation.

The lesson learned is that simply having the black character and black actor isn't enough, you gotta have the black director, writer, executive producer, and enough political pressure to get these cacs to fukk off with their diabolical attempts to sabotage.

Disney should not be let off the hook with this... just like Marvel Studios wasn't prior to and leading up to BP.
 

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It all comes full circle. Wow

Props to Boyega for spitting the real. I know he was in a tough spot as an up and coming actor who landed what should've been an opportunity of a lifetime after years of grinding... only to find himself knee deep in more systematic racial bullshyt.

Before force awakens premiered i was boasting "Boseman and Boyega 2016" because it was clear the potential T'Challa and Finn could have for black male representation.

The lesson learned is that simply having the black character and black actor isn't enough, you gotta have the black director, writer, executive producer, and enough political pressure to get these cacs to fukk off with their diabolical attempts to sabotage.

Disney should not be let off the hook with this... just like Marvel Studios wasn't prior to and leading up to BP.
Thank goodness they didnt screw up T'Challa just a few months later :whew: Let him shine and opened the doors for his sequel.

But also though...it shows just how fearless Boseman (R.I.P) was and unfortunately how Boyega had to play along. Boseman questioned things, always thought deeper and wanted things to be as real as possible. Just like him standing on the fact that T'Challa WILL NOT sound British. He had a more clout than Boyega so I get it. Maybe thats why they hired him so they could do what they want. However, a part of me wished he pushed back on his character being a joke at times and testing JJ/Kathleen/Disney about finding REAL nuance in Finn.

He's a Storm Trooper! Kylo could have been calling him out for all the work they put in killing rebels. They could have really tapped into a man (black man) being programmed and how he broke free from his "chains" so to speak.

It was all there for them and I'm not even asking them to make him a Jedi. They could have made him so much more.
 

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Thank goodness they didnt screw up T'Challa just a few months later :whew: Let him shine and opened the doors for his sequel.

But also though...it shows just how fearless Boseman (R.I.P) was and unfortunately how Boyega had to play along. Boseman questioned things, always thought deeper and wanted things to be as real as possible. Just like him standing on the fact that T'Challa WILL NOT sound British. He had a more clout than Boyega so I get it. Maybe thats why they hired him so they could do what they want. However, a part of me wished he pushed back on his character being a joke at times and testing JJ/Kathleen/Disney about finding REAL nuance in Finn.

He's a Storm Trooper! Kylo could have been calling him out for all the work they put in killing rebels. They could have really tapped into a man (black man) being programmed and how he broke free from his "chains" so to speak.

It was all there for them and I'm not even asking them to make him a Jedi. They could have made him so much more.

Difference is the person who ran marvel compared to the person who ran lucas. Second we also have a black director who was running the show for black panther. He also had pull after other movies he had made. Plus unlike star wars...disney would have gotten unbelievable amounts of heat if they fukked up the black panther characters or if the film was full of bull shyt black stereotypes.
 

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Difference is the person who ran marvel compared to the person who ran lucas. Second we also have a black director who was running the show for black panther. He also had pull after other movies he had made. Plus unlike star wars...disney would have gotten unbelievable amounts of heat if they fukked up the black panther characters or if the film was full of bull shyt black stereotypes.
Bingo. Feige didn't run star wars. He ran Marvel. Disney officially gave him the keys to Star wars so now he's doing a reboot and demoting Kathleen Kennedy to space janitor status. Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau are fixing this shyt.
 
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