Female homosexuality partially hereditary, but erotic "plasticity" still unexplained

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I sort of just noticed this from experience without reading any study about it. Womens' sexual orientation has always seen more plastic than mens' to me.

The average straight man propositioned about doing some gay shyt won't consider it for a nanosecond and may even react violently to the very question.

But straight women are often not repulsed or offended by it. Many straight women will consider or do some girl-on-girl shyt. I've had chicks I've dated who I've asked about threesomes and they've considered it or said it's a sexual fantasy of theirs. Many straight chicks will start tonguing down other chicks after they've had a few drinks. Just look at how chicks pose together touching each other almost naked. You'll never see two straight dudes in nothing but bikinis smiling and hugging each other posing for a picture. And many female porn stars will do dyke scenes like it's nothing, even though they prefer men.

This just goes back to the fact that sexuality is a continuum, not a binary gay or straight thing. Most of us are strictly attracted to the opposite sex. Then there are some who are strictly attracted to the same sex. Then there's some who prefer one over the other, but can be attracted to both. It seems there are far more women who are somewhere in the middle of the bell curve than men.

Lesbianism & Genetics: Female Sexual Orientation Partly Hereditary, But Erotic 'Plasticity' Still Unexplained

Straight women are much more likely to get themselves knocked up than gay women. So, in terms of evolution, they would seem to have a better chance of passing on their genes, while at the same time it would seem that the genes that make women gay would quickly vanish from the gene pool. This raises the question, why are there gay women?

Lesbianism is indeed at least 25 percent genetic, as determined by a 2011 study of twins conducted in the United Kingdom. The study found that identical twin sisters (who share 100 percent of their DNA) are more likely to both be lesbians than are fraternal twin sisters (who share just 50 percent), proving that, all other environmental factors being equal, genes matter. While scientists have a theory for how male homosexuality propagates from one generation to the next, no one has yet produced a viable explanation for how the genes that promote lesbianism might do the same. [Why Are There Gay Men?]

A female's sexual orientation also appears to be partly influenced by her level of exposure to the male sex hormone androgen when she is in the womb. Greater hormone exposure correlates with more gender nonconformity early in her life (as a child, she may be called a "tomboy"), as well as a same-sex orientation later on. A study by Dutch psychologists published in the March issue of the Journal of Sexual Medicine reported that 10 to 12 percent of male and female children who feel discomfort with their gender go on to identify as gay or lesbian as adults. Meanwhile, just 1 or 2 percent of children who are comfortable with their gender identity turn out to be gay or lesbian.

Adding to the confusion about what causes lesbianism is the slipperiness of female sexuality itself. Unlike men, who are usually sexually oriented solely toward men or women, and whose sexuality is essentially fixed from puberty on, a decade of research by the University of Utah psychologist Lisa Diamond and others demonstrates that women have greater "erotic plasticity." Their sexual orientation can be shaped by cultural influences, altered by positive or negative experiences and intensified by feelings of love or attachment. Women are far more likely than men to "report remarkably late and abrupt onset of same-sex sexuality, often after heterosexual marriage," Diamond wrote in January in the Archives of Sexual Behavior.

Their sexual fluidity may emerge from the fact that, across the board, women are sexually aroused by images of both men and women (while men are typically only aroused by members of their preferred sex).

Therefore, the question "why are there gay women?" may be better worded as "why is female sexuality so fluid?" Plenty of women exist at both extremes of the straight-gay spectrum, but it is the formation of this slippery spectrum itself that most needs explaining. Evolutionary biologists have yet to determine what survival or reproductive benefit women's "erotic plasticity" confers.
 

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I thought it was common knowledge that 99% of females are bisexual. A lot of them just never realize their gay desires, but they definitely have the thought. I ask every chic I fukk with if they ever had a bisexual experience with another female or thought about it. If they say no, that ho is automatically a liar in my book :yeshrug:
 

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I thought it was common knowledge that 99% of females are bisexual. A lot of them just never realize their gay desires, but they definitely have the thought. I ask every chic I fukk with if they ever had a bisexual experience with another female or thought about it. If they say no, that ho is automatically a liar in my book :yeshrug:

Females are so damn sexy, even other females can't resist. Power of the p.
 

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Fascinating. I feel like I noticed this anecdotally as well, and I wondered how much of it was just culture (there's definitely a cultural focus on men's sexuality as ideally rigid, whereas women receieve a bit less scrutiny since society is still mostly patriarchal,) but it was also hard to believe that there was no genetic element. I wonder connections can be drawn from women's "plasticity" to other elements of female physiology.
 

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When you are born butch and husky you will be with boys because you are too much of a beast to share company with other girls.

When you are exposed to sexual trauma or turned out at a young age the female will turn bi/gay.

No such thing as a woman born gay. But we all knew that.
 

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I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that pre-1960 women couldn't really just have sex with a guy without fear of getting pregnant? It makes sense to have sex with another woman if pregnancy isn't an option.
 

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Fascinating. I feel like I noticed this anecdotally as well, and I wondered how much of it was just culture (there's definitely a cultural focus on men's sexuality as ideally rigid, whereas women receieve a bit less scrutiny since society is still mostly patriarchal,) but it was also hard to believe that there was no genetic element. I wonder connections can be drawn from women's "plasticity" to other elements of female physiology.

This is a very good point. I wonder how many men would be more open to bisexual experiences if so much male self worth wasn't tied up in our ability to procreate.
 

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The bible doesn't condemn female homosexuality just male homosexuality. Female homosexuality is safer. I'm not some braggart but I've been in a threesome with 2 straight women and they had no problem eating each other out. What is condemned in the bible is if women go against nature and start to dress and act like men.
 

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When you are born butch and husky you will be with boys because you are too much of a beast to share company with other girls.

When you are exposed to sexual trauma or turned out at a young age the female will turn bi/gay.

No such thing as a woman born gay. But we all knew that.

This is definitely Mowgli lol wut up son.
 
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