FBA Bishop Mauled By Angry Kenyans For Telling Them Jesus Was Black

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xTherefore yGod has zhighly exalted him and bestowed on him athe name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus bevery knee should bow, cin heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and devery tongue confess that Jesus Christ is eLord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:9–11

The Book of Philippians was likely written by Paul sometime between A.D. 60 and 62, while he was imprisoned in Rome. Some scholars suggest the letter was written near the end of his imprisonment, around A.D. 61 or 62. The letter is addressed to the Christians in Philippi, a city Paul had founded on his second missionary journey.

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Maybe you should revisit the Paul thread . Read what an actual Jewish Roman says about early Christians not a white guy named Bart 2000 years later :mjlol:
 

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Again breh, read the actual accounts of earliest Christian communities (Jesus followers) documented by Paul (and other early Christian trailblazers) who were one of the most learned scholars and greatest writers of the time Jesus lived

He (Moses) regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward.

- Hebrews 11:26


The Book of Hebrews was likely written between A.D. 64 and 69, before the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Internal evidence within the book suggests it was written prior to this event, as the author refers to temple activities as ongoing.

The Christians as early as 30 years after Jesus death has such a high “Christology” they put him above Moses as an eternal being.

These scriptures (and many more) show historically what they believed at the time

But You interpret for yourself :manny:

I don’t consider you (or me) smarter or more knowledgeable on religion than the three people in the video above

So I don’t think you have a better response as the guy in the debate

The Bible scriptures stand undefeated. That’s why you hate Paul. Because his writings are so threatening to your disbelief in Jesus

Whether you trust and believe the truth of their claims is up to you

But history shows the earliest Christians believed him to be God and Jesus own words/actions lead them to believe this

You can’t rewrite history.

Stop listening to poplar skeptics who make a living catering to anti Christian atheists like you by clicks and views




Watch the entire video it’s pretty good


Well the dude you are siding with in that debate interviewed the popular skeptic so there must be something there for Christians lol



xTherefore yGod has zhighly exalted him and bestowed on him athe name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus bevery knee should bow, cin heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and devery tongue confess that Jesus Christ is eLord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:9–11

The Book of Philippians was likely written by Paul sometime between A.D. 60 and 62, while he was imprisoned in Rome. Some scholars suggest the letter was written near the end of his imprisonment, around A.D. 61 or 62. The letter is addressed to the Christians in Philippi, a city Paul had founded on his second missionary journey.

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Maybe you should revisit the Paul thread . Read what an actual Jewish Roman says about early Christians not a white guy named Bart 2000 years later :mjlol:








 
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Well the dude you are siding with in that debate interviewed the popular skeptic so there must be something there for Christians lol













You’re not refuting my argument or responding to the scripture i posted

You’re just posting Bart Herman videos

Godlogic (the black guy) is the one who posed the question that made the Atheist debater concede

He made the point for me.

A point which also disproves all the click bait videos you’re posting

YouTubers/authors like Barth Herman and Rabbi Tovai Singer make a living attacking Jesus and Christianity because it’s a polarizing topic good for views and engagement


But I just proved to you what Jesus was historically view as by people living during his lifetime

unless you have some supreme knowledge above those in the debate room (which you’re open to share) I’ll just assume
you concede as well :manny:
 

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Breh, read the Gospels as if it’s history.

That’s all I ask.

Are you not living in a reality where the entire world has been formed by Christianity, a 2000 year old movement that originated with one Jewish man

We can keep playing this skeptic game or you can wake up and face the facts In front of you.



How much evidence do I need to post breh, cause I been prepared for people like you.

There are too many sources online that will bury your and any Barth Ehrman argument you can post by simply using common sense and judgement

I’m Starting to think Barth is your personal Jesus and your CULT leader :youngsabo:
 
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You’re not refuting my argument or responding to the scripture i posted

You’re just posting Bart Herman videos

Godlogic (the black guy) is the one who posed the question that made the Atheist debater concede

He made the point for me.

A point which also disproves all the click bait videos you’re posting

YouTubers/authors like Barth Herman and Rabbi Tovai Singer make a living attacking Jesus and Christianity because it’s a polarizing topic good for views and engagement


But I just proved to you what Jesus was historically view as by people living during his lifetime

unless you have some supreme knowledge above those in the debate room (which you’re open to share) I’ll just assume
you concede as well :manny:
And Bart Ehrman's videos made the point for me.
I don't know scriptures off the top of my head and I'm not going to spend the time looking for them as well as looking up available historical records. Definitely no point when I can point to a biblical scholar with actual credentials who can give you more in the weeds answer than I can.

The fact that you think Bart is attacking Jesus and Christianity shows how closed minded you are. I'm going to assume you are against history, archeology, and science that is contradictory to verses in the Bible.

Being narrowed about religion closes you off from understanding whatever text you follow's deeper meaning and historical connections



 

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And Bart Ehrman's videos made the point for me.
I don't know scriptures off the top of my head and I'm not going to spend the time looking for them as well as looking up available historical records. Definitely no point when I can point to a biblical scholar with actual credentials who can give you more in the weeds answer than I can.

The fact that you think Bart is attacking Jesus and Christianity shows how closed minded you are. I'm going to assume you are against history, archeology, and science that is contradictory to verses in the Bible.

Being narrowed about religion closes you off from understanding whatever text you follow's deeper meaning and historical connections





I’m just asking you to refute ONE argument and respond to One scripture and ONE video

You’re spamming YouTube videos with hours of unrelated content.

Just tell me why early Christians elevated Jesus a normal man who existed in history to that of an eternal God like figure

And how you reconcile this with your skepticism

I’m talking history NOT religion or theology and definitely NOT DEBATING IF THE GOSPEL BOOKS ARE RELIABLE ENOUGH TO YOUR STANDARDS

You have your subjective views that probably wont change

You’ll just move the goal posts the more I prove the legitimacy of early Christian accounts and the Gospels reliability

What other scholars see and understand you can’t because you are biased and hate Christianity….. and you’re likely not a scholar either
 
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Breh, you’re just reaching in thin air and posting random Barth Ehermam videos from your YouTube history :mjlol:

This has nothing to do with the conversation or point I’m making

Why are you deflecting?

YouTube videos won’t save you.
You gotta think for yourself
:dahell: most of your posts have mentioned Islam randomly
 

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I’m just asking you to refute ONE argument and respond to One scripture and ONE video

You’re spamming YouTube videos with hours of unrelated content.

Just tell me why early Christians elevated Jesus a normal man who existed in history to that of an eternal God like figure

And how you reconcile this with your skepticism

I’m talking history NOT religion or theology and definitely NOT DEBATING IF THE GOSPEL BOOKS ARE RELIABLE ENOUGH TO YOUR STANDARDS

You have your subjective views that probably wont change

You’ll just move the goal posts the more I prove the legitimacy of early Christian accounts and the Gospels reliability

What other scholars see and understand you can’t because you are biased and hate Christianity….. and you’re likely not a scholar either
I did earlier in this back and forth with you and you didn't agree and quoted scriptures.
You think the Bible is bulletproof.

You post a video saying the Bible has no contradictions, I post a video saying otherwise and going into further detail, then you get upset I'm posting videos :yeshrug:
 

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I did earlier in this back and forth with you and you didn't agree and quoted scriptures.
You think the Bible is bulletproof.

You post a video saying the Bible has no contradictions, I post a video saying otherwise and going into further detail, then you get upset I'm posting videos :yeshrug:

Please quote where you answered my latest position

You said “Well the dude you are siding with in that debate interviewed the popular skeptic so there must be something there for Christians lol

This isn’t even a response to the point made by Godlogic which the atheist had no response.

Besides that I only saw videos you posted in response (which isn’t a proper answer).

So what’s your personal takeaway on that exchange.

Here is a breakdown of what I’m referring to:



The black guy is Godlogic in case you never heard of him
 

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:dahell: most of your posts have mentioned Islam randomly

Yes because you conveniently leave out Islam and Muhammad when describing your issues with Abrahamic religions and Cult like leaders and teachings

Did you forget the prior topic was Abrahamic religions being Cults and bad for society

I was just challenging your position that all Abrahamic religions are the same when Islam as practiced today following Muhammads life and teachings fit the description of a Cult more than anything

Your focus on Christianity alone is surprising considering that Jesus’ teaching and life is quite the opposites of Muhammad’s

My point: don’t equate Christianity to Islam as “Abrahamic” religions

Especially when the foundation of faith in Jesus IS NOT based on tribalism, lineage or race. Which is why this thread was made as a criticism of Hebrew Israelites.

So I’m the one on topic

I was just showing you error and correcting you.
 

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Please quote where you answered my latest position

You said “Well the dude you are siding with in that debate interviewed the popular skeptic so there must be something there for Christians lol

This isn’t even a response to the point made by Godlogic which the atheist had no response.

Besides that I only saw videos you posted in response (which isn’t a proper answer).

So what’s your personal takeaway on that exchange.

Here is a breakdown of what I’m referring to:



The black guy is Godlogic in case you never heard of him

Thought you were talking about David Wood because you wanted me to watch the whole thing:manny:
 

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Yes because you conveniently leave out Islam and Muhammad when describing your issues with Abrahamic religions and Cult like leaders and teachings

Did you forget the prior topic was Abrahamic religions being Cults and bad for society

I was just challenging your position that all Abrahamic religions are the same when Islam as practiced today following Muhammads life and teachings fit the description of a Cult more than anything

Your focus on Christianity alone is surprising considering that Jesus’ teaching and life is quite the opposites of Muhammad’s

My point: don’t equate Christianity to Islam as “Abrahamic” religions

Especially when the foundation of faith in Jesus IS NOT based on tribalism, lineage or race. Which is why this thread was made as a criticism of Hebrew Israelites.

So I’m the one on topic

I was just showing you error and correcting you.
Islam is one of the three abrahamic religions
 
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