Fat Joe Says “From The Birthplace To Its Inception, He Is Hip Hop”

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@Plankton @smokeurobinson

DID YOUR FAT, STNKY, SLOPPY UGLY
PEDOPHILE ASS REALLY THINK
nikkaS DIDNT KNOW WHO
YOU WERE, WHILE YOURE CAPPING
ABOUT MY GOOD LOOKS BEHIND
AN ALIAS fukk nikka?

YOUVE BEEN USING THE SAME
LINES FOR YEARS ...

smokeurobinson said:
Chicago....We've been aware of each other for 10 years now. You've posted a pic of yourself with Tariq Nasheed.....You've posted your numerous mixtapes Volumes on this very website.
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Plankton said:
I mean, lets be real here...I get your stance....you are one of Tariq Nasheeds #1 dikk riders. We all saw you post that picture of you and Tariq
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smokeurobinson said:
Before I go let me also add that your garbage as an emcee. Your mixtapes are trash and u never blew up because u don't have the it factor. You are a failed rapper who is almost 40 and still hanging onto a fantasy of one day being famous.


OK now I'm out
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WAIT UNTIL I FIND THAT PIC
OF YOUR FUNKY FAT ASS
:devil:
:evil:
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here's my problem with this whole debate:

if Fat Joe gets to say nikka because Puerto Ricans have black roots, right...
then what the fukk is he arguing about? They would be included by default in the black roots of hip hop.

so he wants his people singled out specifically as also part of the origination, but at the same time wants his people blended into the diaspora to justify why he as someone who presents more white than literally half of Italy gets to move in the ways that we do.

He wants to be part of 'us' when it suits him, but also wants his people to get specific recognition as 'also' when it would better aggrandize him and his supposed foundational place in the movement.

Is it Oochie Wally or is it One Mic.
Either you part of us and don't get extra shoutouts, or you aren't part of us, Ricans should get recognition... and also should be immediately be checked any time they get loose and reckless with the language of a group they specifically have stated they are 'part of but not really'.

Leave it to a whole-ass white man with blue eyes to come into hip-hop preaching 'separate but equal, my nikkas':camby:
 
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The Intergalactic Koala said:
Sighs, the fact that Fat Joe in 2024 going into 2025 is flooding The Booth and leaking into TLR, as a hip hop head marsupial, if we keeping it a bean...everybody had a piece of hip hop like it or not.



This flick alone should dead the argument because Fat Joe semi right, but at the same time a goofy fukkhead explaining the shyt to a tee. Its deeply rooted to the origins of Bronx with ricans and black bombing trains, black folks spitting the "chh chhh check it out" steez, the breakdancing, and so forth.

This is the only fukking genre that basically gets treated like a child in a custody battle.

Hell, you rarely see that in Rock N Roll because cacs realized that black folks earthed the shyt (80 percent tops prayfully).

Country coming along despite MAGAts being in denial.

Yet, here we are in this time, era, and century letting a bright bald dome eggshell looking washed ass rapper, and a failed pimp getting puters putins, rather than spending that energy in making the game not so fukked up as it is :francis:
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Facts!!!!!!!!!
 
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Plankton said:
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You need to tell the whole story. There were Black Americans who despised Hip Hop in real time too. Original B Boy Cholly Rock breaks down how for the most part Hip Hop was hated. He literally says "They were against it....they did not like it" He goes onto say how Disco was king and how for the most part Black Americans were looking down on those who were into Hip Hop.

Now unlike you who is just focused on ethnicity, Cholly Rock is more focused on the bandwagon jumping after the fact from Black Americans. That's his gripe. He is against Black Americans fronting like they were into it in the beginning when a lot of them despised it. Not acknowledging this fact is giving credit to those who despised it in the beginning. When telling the true history you have to add that there was a good portion of Black Americans who hated Hip Hop in the beginning but jumped on the bandwagon when the culture became more popular.

I time stamped it for you

From 9:48 to 11:39

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I actually believe this version of events more than this rewrite ive seen as of late. I remember when it was acknkwledged a Jamaican american created hiphop and it was influenced by reggae. But i remember asking "What if the jamaican creator and jamaicans wanted to claim hiphop as Jamaican music?". Then suddenly it became "Bu bu but it was made in America:whoa:". So it went from only the identity of the creator defining what a genre was,to it being about the location. A few black people creating hiphop dont make the genre "black". The participants absolutely define what the genre is,if it can be defined. And according to people like Bambatta you also had white punk rockers participating. Meaning in the melting pot of NY,hiphop basically started out as YOUTH CULTURE. Culturally there was nothing in the content that made hiphop "black" as a genre.


Had people listened to me they wouldnt be juelzing like they have been forced to,as well as rewrite history.

www.thecoli.com

Do black creators neccessarily make a genre black?I say no,some say yes.

I had this debate with posters in another thread,who told me house music was black music because it was created by black people. My argument to them was that it thrived in shared spaces with gays and europeans,and was also pioneered by homosexuals. And most importantly didn't really cater to...
www.thecoli.com www.thecoli.com


Early hiphop was not a black genre,it was youth culture. It became black later on to the point it would be difficult for a non black person to perform it authentically. That was not the case early on before the content shifted.

I do find it weird for people to try to suddenly act like latinos werent even around like that,and it was just a "couple":mjlol:


Whats wrong with saying hiphop had a black Jamaican creator,and was influenced by reggae. Pearto ricans were heavy contributors and participants early on?


In no way does that take away from the fact that hiphop later evolved into BLACK AMERICAN(FBA) MUSIC. It had no racial identity yet when the Jamaican created it,and the puerto ricans were lets say 70/30 founders.


Im more curious to hear if Fat Joe STILL would have the audacity to pull that 50/50 card today. Or does he acknowledge that hiphop is black american music. Hiphop didnt become great until it became black music. I wouldnt care if i found out a white man created hiphop. It would still be black music like rock n roll became white music. Hiphop started out as everybodies and evolved into a black genre. This is the reverse course that most black genres have taken.
 
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