Farm owners voted for Trump, now they're afraid they'll lose their Latino workers

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the agriculture industry cant survive without illegals, nobody else is willing to pick those crops at those pay rates

thankfully in cali were turning into a sanctuary state so our food prices should stay the same but outside of cali ya'll about to pay 10 bucks for a apple because we could pay slave wages to these illegals
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Which makes it even worse. If the USA is supposed to be so noble and calls it slavery in the Ivory Coast then it seems hypocritical if they are not calling the same actions slavery in the USA. Btw, thank you for your well thought out and reasoned response.

And again this ain't the Ivory Coast.


the usa suppose to be noble :laff:

and no shyt the usa is hypocritical.

no need to be passive aggressive:skip:
 

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Please correct me where I'm wrong.

The "Slavery" issue in the Ivory Coast is largely in regards to child labor who were either lured by false wage ideas, kidnapped, or sold by their family for profit to work into their coca fields.

Trafficking individuals from the surrounding countries to the Ivory Coast is made easier because these neighboring countries also are countries listed as a part of their Visa Waiver Programs. Meaning there isn't much there to restrict the flow of these people in the first place. Right?

In some places there are still markets setup for the selling of individuals into slavery correct?

It's essentially Chattel Slavery for kids right?

While you can draw parallels between those lured through false hopes in the Ivory Coast and the US you can't do that for the chattel slave aspects of their problems.

Farmers in the Ivory Coast are literally buying teenage boys as property.

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Please correct me where I'm wrong.

The "Slavery" issue in the Ivory Coast is largely in regards to child labor who were either lured by false wage ideas, kidnapped, or sold by their family for profit to work into their coca fields.

Trafficking individuals from the surrounding countries to the Ivory Coast is made easier because these neighboring countries also are countries listed as a part of their Visa Waiver Programs. Meaning there isn't much there to restrict the flow of these people in the first place. Right?

In some places there are still markets setup for the selling of individuals into slavery correct?

It's essentially Chattel Slavery for kids right?

While you can draw parallels between those lured through false hopes in the Ivory Coast and the US you can't do that for the chattel slave aspects of their problems.

Farmers in the Ivory Coast are literally buying teenage boys as property.

:francis:

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Who Is Smuggling Immigrant Children Across The Border?

Who Is Smuggling Immigrant Children Across The Border?

CBP: 135 Unaccompanied Children Caught At U.S. Border Per Day in July
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CBP: 135 Unaccompanied Children Caught At U.S. Border Per Day in July



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Coyotes: The Smugglers That Bring Kids To The Border
'Coyotes' Lure Illegal Immigrants with Promises of Amnesty, by Ryan Lovelace, National Review
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/24/opinion/kohn-undocumented-kids/
 

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Ummm...., Black people did those jobs for a lot longer than Mexicans ever did and we were better at it; except we didn't get paid shyt. Hell Black people were so good at it that this fukking Country became rich, which made other White people and Mexicans want to be here.

Real talk blacks invented the cotton gin and whiskey, two key sources of wealth for the South and to be honest most of the country in the 1800s when real wealth was created. They resent us but this country wouldn't be sh*t without us, and won't be sh*t if we leave.
 
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Disrespectful to our ancestors to compare people immigrating to this coutry of their own volition to what our ancestors went through neg. All of our skinfolk are not our kinfolk.
 

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Disrespectful to our ancestors to compare people immigrating to this coutry of their own volition to what our ancestors went through neg. All of our skinfolk are not our kinfolk.

Yes. Lets not act like the folks south of the border didn't get massacred and raped into servitude though....
 

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Disrespectful to our ancestors to compare people immigrating to this coutry of their own volition to what our ancestors went through neg. All of our skinfolk are not our kinfolk.

First of all there are different types of slavery. That is the starting point when discussing the issue. There has been slavery since Biblical times and and there was a form of slavery in Africa, long before our ancestors were captured in ethnic warfare by other Africans and sold to the Europeans. Our ancestors went through Chattel slavery, which is a completely different kind of slavery than what is being discussed.

The slavery that is being discussed is what is going on right now today in Ivory Coast. White people have made it a point to try to embarrass the Ivory Coast government internationally by saying that what is being done currently in the Ivory Coast is a form of slavery. It is not chattel slavery like was done in the Americas back a few hundred years ago, but the White man calls it slavery nonetheless. If White people being all high and mighty are calling what is happening currently in Ivory Coast a form of slavery then what are they calling what is happening right now along the USA/Mexican borders and in the USA. It is exactly what is going on right now in the Ivory Coast; except the White calls what he is doing free enterpris rather than slavery.
 
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First of all there are different types of slavery. That is the starting point when discussing the issue. There has been slavery since Biblical times and and there was a form of slavery in Africa, long before our ancestors were captured in ethnic warfare by other Africans and sold to the Europeans. Our ancestors went through Chattel slavery, which is a completely different kind of slavery than what is being discussed.

The slavery that is being discussed is what is going on right now today in Ivory Coast. White people have made it a point to try to embarrass the Ivory Coast government internationally by saying that what is being done currently in the Ivory Coast is a form of slavery. It is not chattel slavery like was done in the Americas back a few hundred years ago, but the White man calls it slavery nonetheless. If White people being all high and mighty are calling what is happening currently in Ivory Coast a form of slavery then what are they calling what is happening right now along the USA/Mexican borders and in the USA. It is exactly what is going on right now in the Ivory Coast; except the White calls what he is doing free enterpris rather than slavery.
I'm not reading this c00n shyt. If they're getting paid and weren't forced to come here then miss me with that slave shyt.
 

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From your article:

1. According to ICE – Immigration and Customs Enforcement – human smugglers are not the same as human traffickers. Human smuggling involves the voluntary intention to get yourself smuggled across international borders, and a smuggler or coyote, is your facilitator. Human trafficking, on the other hand, is the transportation of people with the purpose of selling them or exploiting them in forced prostitution and other forms of labor. In trafficking, people are usually held against their consent.

As I said there are differences. The issue in the Ivory Coast are human traffickers. Largely because of all that I've seen, and you've noted Mali in your previous responses, don't require the need to be smuggled because they don't require visas.

The issue you Keep referring to and drawing statistics for are human smuggling. People making these decisions by choice.

They aren't the same. That's why we aren't calling it slavery because these people are 1.)Choosing to come to America and 2.)Aren't being purchased as property by Americans.
 

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I'm not reading this c00n shyt. If they're getting paid and weren't forced to come here then miss me with that slave shyt.

Right. Why would you read it when I am saying to you that the White man is insulting and humiliating Black people in the Ivory Coast West Africa, but allowing White people in the USA to do the same thing. Why would you stick up for Black people. That would be some c00n shyt.
 
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Right. Why would you read it when I am saying to you that the White man is insulting and humiliating Black people in the Ivory Coast West Africa, but allowing White people in the USA to do the same thing. Why would you stick up for Black people. That would be some c00n shyt.
nikka you just negged me for pointing out that the Sudanese nonblack arabs are enslaving black people in the sudan. Actual slavery no pay, taken against their will. You ain't pro black you just some intersectional c00n.
 

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From your article:



As I said there are differences. The issue in the Ivory Coast are human traffickers. Largely because of all that I've seen, and you've noted Mali in your previous responses, don't require the need to be smuggled because they don't require visas.

The issue you Keep referring to and drawing statistics for are human smuggling. People making these decisions by choice.

They aren't the same. That's why we aren't calling it slavery because these people are 1.)Choosing to come to America and 2.)Aren't being purchased as property by Americans.

The people in Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger are choosing to go into Ivory Coast. Most are going into Ivory Coast willingly for work. The distinction continues to escape me, because the Coyotes/human smugglers are holding people hostage until they pay.

We can agree to disagree. The shyt that pisses me off though is that Black people are always shown in a negative light and White people are shown in a positive light; even when they are engaging in the same conduct.
 
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