The Fukin Prophecy
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That's the price you pay for entering a country illegally...They aren't slaves because they are free to leave. There are legitimate gripes about the lack of rights, low wages and substandard working conditions.
Farm owners voted for Trump, now they're afraid they'll lose their Latino workers
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Comparing there struggle to American slavery is a reach that I'm not going to make because as I said earlier it's a leap in logic that skips many of the key tenants of Chattel Slavery.
As you've done numerous times you can highlight the experiences that undocumented workers are facing without trying to make it equivalent to chattel slavery. It's not that.
But please, carry on calling them slaves. How do you propose we set them free?
Comparing there struggle to American slavery is a reach that I'm not going to make because as I said earlier it's a leap in logic that skips many of the key tenants of Chattel Slavery.
As you've done numerous times you can highlight the experiences that undocumented workers are facing without trying to make it equivalent to chattel slavery. It's not that.
But please, carry on calling them slaves. How do you propose we set them free?
You keep equating it to Chattel slavery, because that is the only form of slavery that you apparently know and understand.
I linked a video to the migrant issues on the cocoa farms in Ivory Coast, which is the same issues that exist right here with immigrants in the USA. People in the USA call the actions going on in the Ivory Coast slavery, but here in the USA it is called free enterprise. The migrants in Ivory Coast are referred to as slaves by people in the USA, while the migrants in the USA are referred to as undocumented workers. You don't even see the hypocrisy in it, which is stunning.
It's disingenuous to refer to slavery in America as anything other than Chattel slavery. I figured you'd go down that path.You keep equating it to Chattel slavery, because that is the only form of slavery that you apparently know and understand.
I linked a video to the migrant issues on the cocoa farms in Ivory Coast, which is the same issues that exist right here with immigrants in the USA. People in the USA call the actions going on in the Ivory Coast slavery, but here in the USA it is called free enterprise. The migrants in Ivory Coast are referred to as slaves by people in the USA, while the migrants in the USA are referred to as undocumented workers. You don't even see the hypocrisy in it, which is stunning.
The only reason you and people like you want to call it slavery is so that you can play into the emotions of people that aren't listening to your argument or supporting your position. It's a cheap tactic. Call it slavery, then when a black person disagrees your de facto response becomes, "I'm amazed you, as a black person of all people, wouldn't be against slavery."
Cut it out.
Either way, this is the last response you're going to get because you're insisting on trying to equate the plight of willingful illegal immigrants to those of past slaves in America.
Red Shield
Global Domination
Dudes really comparing illegal immigrants to slavery 
These illegals can roll back home any time and are being paid.
These illegals can roll back home any time and are being paid.
Issue must be centered in North California and Napa. In SoCal the ones in Tijuana will continue to cross the border everyday to commute 100 miles for minimum wage. The will just expand the issuances H-2A visas. Know brehs who have been crossing the borders since their preteens working still can't get citizenship in their 40s. And San Diego has 60 percent surplus of grains/cereals that's exported. Or farms will automate: What Happened When the U.S. Got Rid of Guest Workers? Farms Used Less Labor
I hate that a lot of indigenous/Indian Mexicans are being punished as the Oaxacan community are the growing population of migrant workers (Mixtecs,Triquis, and Zapotecs). They already catch shyt from the mestizo(mixed race) Mexicans at home and looking for a better life.
I hate that a lot of indigenous/Indian Mexicans are being punished as the Oaxacan community are the growing population of migrant workers (Mixtecs,Triquis, and Zapotecs). They already catch shyt from the mestizo(mixed race) Mexicans at home and looking for a better life.
General Mills
More often than not I tend to take that L.
your right
They can walk right into a police station or call ICE. Inform them they are an illegal immigrant and the deportation process will send them right back to their home country where they have rights.
They have the choice to leave.
They have the choice to leave.
This slavery argument ignores sanctuary cities that provides them with rights. It ignores the fact that their children become citizens. Ignores the fact that despite being illegal they're still allowed to rent homes, chose jobs, earn a wage, use public education, or even the unthinkable of being a documented worker or citizen.
This slavery narrative has to end right now. And this isn't the Ivory Coast so you aren't even comparing like for like just based on how America and the Ivory Coast are fundamentally different.
@Akan are you African?
This slavery narrative has to end right now. And this isn't the Ivory Coast so you aren't even comparing like for like just based on how America and the Ivory Coast are fundamentally different.
@Akan are you African?
I am an African American and my family has been in this country since slavery. I am probably a lot older than you.
This slavery argument does not have to end now. You are looking at modern day slavery right here in the USA, but what should be pissing you off is that they call it free enterprise in the USA; but slavery in the Ivory Coast. You like other people in this country have chosen to turn your heads to what is going on, which is your prerogative. However, that does not mean that it is not going on.
Another thing that should have you pissed off is that these so called sanctuary cities are using what ever level of support that they are giving on foreign nationals rather than on the USA citizens that elect those officials and pay the taxes. The same cities will then turn around and make laws and prosecute African American youths to the fullest extent of some law; but then turn around and say that they will not enforce the national law against foreign nationals.
For whatever reason your brain is taking you back to Chattel slavery like the form that exited here in the USA. There are other forms of slavery like the form that the White people allege occurs on the cocoa farms in the Ivory Coast. If what is happening in the Ivory Coast is considered slavery then it is also happening in the modern day USA. You keep thinking about the illegal aliens that have freedom of movement and that can come and go; but not all illegal aliens have that freedom of movement, because either they owe the coyotes or they are under threats of exposure to the authorities or of violence from some of their employers. Not only that but even during the Chattel slavery era here in the USA a lot of slaves had some form of freedom of movement for purposes of association or if their labor was leased out by their slave master.
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Dudes really comparing illegal immigrants to slavery
These illegals can roll back home any time and are being paid.
No. The USA calls what is happening in Ivory Coast slavery, but the same thing is happening in the USA and they call it free enterprise. Look at the video that I posted.
Red Shield
Global Domination
this ain't the ivory coast
Which makes it even worse. If the USA is supposed to be so noble and calls it slavery in the Ivory Coast then it seems hypocritical if they are not calling the same actions slavery in the USA. Btw, thank you for your well thought out and reasoned response.
Which is what the kids from Burkina Faso, Mali and Niger have to do in the Ivory Coast.
