Fantastic 4 has a 9% on RT :snoop:

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Does this count as rooting for bad movies to occur in the future? Just curious.
It counts as hoping to spite the marvel fanboyism. And just because fox apparently didnt make a good film now doesnt mean they wont get it right later.

Fox has more comic films Ive liked than marvel has.
 

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So you prefer a more grounded approach dealing with real world issues like terrorism, war profiteers and the dangers of government overreach but dislike the more scifi/fantasy heavy films.:ehh:
I have no problem with sci fi/fantasy if done well. But mavel hasnt done them well. The villains and plots have been generic and uniniteresting. And the action too formulaic.

Its just too safe. Its offensive by being so safe and pandering. Theirs no risk or interesting film making happening. Just feels like an assembly line of films with the same basic outlines.

I liked,nay loved the characters of GOTG,but man,what a boring story and villain. Its half a film.
 

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I have no problem with sci fi/fantasy if done well. But mavel hasnt done them well. The villains and plots have been generic and uniniteresting. And the action too formulaic.

Its just too safe. Its offensive by being so safe and pandering. Theirs no risk or interesting film making happening. Just feels like an assembly line of films with the same basic outlines.

I liked,nay loved the characters of GOTG,but man,what a boring story and villain. Its half a film.
That goes back to my statement of Marvel's style not being for you. Marvel does have a somewhat safe approach because they are making movies for families and geeks. They are making something kids will like that will still entertain adults while trying to appease comicbook fans. The approach they have taken to make this work is to spend time making the hero interesting in order to make his journey one people want to continue to follow. Sometimes this leaves little to no room to develop the villains beyond being the final obstacle for the hero. Marvel does find a way around that at times with a mid to late movie heel turn by someone close to the hero that was being established with him. It worked with Stane, Loki, and Alexander Pierce but doesn't work with every story or character because some characters have comics history that geeks would flip out over if it was changed.
 

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Just saw the movie. It took almost one hour for them to get and use their powers in an hour and a half superhero movie. :martin:

Not an expert on Fantastic Four but from an entertainment perspective the movie dragged. If they do pursue a sequel (:skip:) the pacing has to be better.
 

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Everything about Doom was jacked up. Beyond just getting the character itself wrong, but even with the b*stardized version they created.

Like just before the final battle...

-SPOILERS people should read anyway b/c the movie should only be watched out of morbid curiosity-


"Doom" runs through the complex by blowing up people's heads left & right with his mind powers at will. When he gets to a planet where all his power comes from and has even more power, what does he do when facing the Human Torch?

Throw rocks at him.

What does he do when he faces The Thing?

Throws bigger rocks at him.

What does he do when he asks aloud where Sue's at (when there's no way in the movie he can even know she can turn invisible?)

Throw rocks to reveal her invisible force field and then throw more rocks to break the force field.

What does he do when Mr. Fantastic comes through to save the day?

Yep. Rocks. (To break the bands that let him control his form when, again, "Doom" couldn't know that detail.)

And what defense does he use when they manage to shake off the all the previous rocks and come together to fight him at once?

Mother. fukking. Rocks.

In the immediately previous scene, you establish this "Doom" can crush skulls with his mind and, instead of even attempting to do that with any of the FF (or even throwing in a line of garbage comic movie science that their having the same energy prevents him from exploding their heads) your only action is to have "Doom" slinging more rocks than all trap rap ever combined.

So fukking dumb. (but I went in knowing it's bad, so I was entertained :pachaha:)

Haven't seen the movie yet, buy this shyt has me dying.
 

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That goes back to my statement of Marvel's style not being for you. Marvel does have a somewhat safe approach because they are making movies for families and geeks. They are making something kids will like that will still entertain adults while trying to appease comicbook fans. The approach they have taken to make this work is to spend time making the hero interesting in order to make his journey one people want to continue to follow. Sometimes this leaves little to no room to develop the villains beyond being the final obstacle for the hero. Marvel does find a way around that at times with a mid to late movie heel turn by someone close to the hero that was being established with him. It worked with Stane, Loki, and Alexander Pierce but doesn't work with every story or character because some characters have comics history that geeks would flip out over if it was changed.

Yes, having to satisfy multiple audiences cuts down on the likelihood of something somewhat strange being released especially kids.

Plus there is 100s of millions of dollars riding on these. Making some art piece out of left field just isn’t smart if you are trying to get a good ROI. This is mostly business not art, especially at this budget of movie making.
 

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Yes, having to satisfy multiple audiences cuts down on the likelihood of something somewhat strange being released especially kids.

Plus there is 100s of millions of dollars riding on these. Making some art piece out of left field just isn’t smart if you are trying to get a good ROI. This is mostly business not art, especially at this budget of movie making.
And this is the part that gets me. These people want movies to take chances when there are millions of dollars at stake. But the low budget movies that do take chances no one talks about.
 

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I was in the camp "I'll reserve judgement till I see it" before the movie came out but these reviews are making me go :jbhmm: or is it a mediocre with some hyperbole tossed in?
 

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I hope Marvel doesn't end up oversaturating the market with films too soon. They need to keep switching up their now generic-ass formula so people don't get burnt out with the same shyt. Even though they can't do the comics justice, I hope Civil War at least features some serious drama/character conflict. I wonder if that Doctor Strange movie is gonna be some groundbreaking stuff too:lupe:. So much potential there, but only if Marvel has some new formulas in place by then.

And I honestly say let Fox cook. The X-Men films were hella solid, and the new movie looks so too, but I really need them to change that Ivan Ooze-lookin' ass Apocalypse ASAP:aicmon: .

As far as the F. Four, the only thing that ever had mass-appeal in the modern comics were the Thing, their villains (esp Doom) and the cosmic side. If Marvel gets them they need to have the Four as a cameo in another film and slide them in that way, but give up on making movies with them.
 
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