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If there's any reason for Bethesda not letting another developer work on another fallout game, it probably because of the initial reaction to NV when it released so blame crybaby ass gamers such as yourself for that.

Most fans of the series agree that New Vegas is overall a much better game than 3. The reason Bethesda doesn't let another developer handle the game is because they know they will get outshined again and they are too p*ssy to set their pride aside to let that happen for the good of the series.

The ability to build and control your own settlements is the very definition of role playing.
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:russ: breh you can't be serious. that sounds more like a survival/simulator game than a fukking rpg. You gonna say Fornite is an RPG next?
 

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Most fans of the series agree that New Vegas is overall a much better game than 3. The reason Bethesda doesn't let another developer handle the game is because they know they will get outshined again and they are too p*ssy to set their pride aside to let that happen for the good of the series.


:russ: breh you can't be serious. that sounds more like a survival/simulator game than a fukking rpg. You gonna say Fornite is an RPG next?
I already explained this earlier in the thread, when New vegas released it was called an even more buggy reskin of fallout 3. Fans of the series didnt call it the best of the series till years later when shyting on Bethesda became the cool thing to do.
 
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I already explained this earlier in the thread, when New vegas released it was called an even more buggy reskin of fallout 3. Fans of the series didnt call it the best of the series till years later when shyting on Bethesda became the cool thing to do.
This doesn't help your initial argument at all breh. If fans eventually came around and realized that Obsidian's Fallout was superior to Bethesda's wouldn't Bethesda be more inclined to outsource the game back to them? The criticism that it got at first does not matter at this point.
 

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This doesn't help your initial argument at all breh. If fans eventually came around and realized that Obsidian's Fallout was superior to Bethesda's wouldn't Bethesda be more inclined to outsource the game back to them? The criticism that it got at first does not matter at this point.
If I'm looking at it from bethesda's point of view then I dont know if the love for NV is because it was a great game or if it's just because hating Bethesda is popular right now so no. Fallout 3 was universally praised at release and went on to sell 12 million copies while NV was called a glorified expansion pack and only sold 5 million copies so what does that tell you if you're in Bethesda's shoes?
 

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If I'm looking at it from bethesda's point of view then I dont know if the love for NV is because it was a great game or if it's just because hating Bethesda is popular right now so no. Fallout 3 was universally praised at release and went on to sell 12 million copies while NV was called a glorified expansion pack and only sold 5 million copies so what does that tell you if you're in Bethesda's shoes?

You do realize the main reason Fallout 3 sold so well is because Bethesda revived the franchise after they bought the IP from Interplay. It was going to sell well regardless.

The reason why people are shyting on Bethesda is because 7 years after Fallout 3 this is the best they could do with Fallout 4. A decent game with little to no RPG elements that the series is known for.

Obsidian did reuse assets from Fallout 3 but you fail to mention they only had 16-18 months of development time for New Vegas. And they still put out a better game compared Fallout 3. The Legion was supposed to have more content but the majority of it got cut due to time constraints.

Like @ThreeOneTwo said Bethesda is afraid they will get outshined by Obsidian again.

Thanks to Bethesda Fallout is gradually turning into a bland game that caters to casuals who don't know anything about the series.
 

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You do realize the main reason Fallout 3 sold so well is because Bethesda revived the franchise after they bought the IP from Interplay. It was going to sell well regardless.
Because the fallout series was some massively popular franchise before Bethesda bought the rights for them right?
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Nether of the first two games sold well at all, they were niche titles at best.

Fallout 3 did well because Bethesda took their widely popular elder scrolls style of gameplay and applied it to the fallout series.
The reason why people are shyting on Bethesda is because 7 years after Fallout 3 this is the best they could do with Fallout 4. A decent game with little to no RPG elements that the series is known for.
The reason people are shytting on Bethesda is because gamers are fickle crybabies who cry about everything, just like they cried about NV when it released.

You still haven't explained exactly what makes fallout 4 any less of an rpg game than fallout 3.
Obsidian did reuse assets from Fallout 3 but you fail to mention they only had 16-18 months of development time for New Vegas. And they still put out a better game compared Fallout 3. The Legion was supposed to have more content but the majority of it got cut due to time constraints.
It's real easy to improve on existing content when your reusing assets and a formula from another game. And again, NV being a better game was not something that was agreed on till years later when shytting on Bethesda became the popular thing to do.
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Yall love throwing out these weird ass conspiracies about how Bethesda is just scared of being outshined like the general consensus wasn't that fallout 3 was the better game and NV was just an overpriced expansion pack at the time of release. Now they are secretly trying to turn the series into some multiplayer bullshyt even tho they have clearly stated otherwise.

Gaming community is fukking trash.
 
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Because the fallout series was some massively popular franchise before Bethesda bought the rights for them right?
:mjlol:

Nether of the first two games sold well at all, they were niche titles at best.

Fallout 3 did well because Bethesda took their widely popular elder scrolls style of gameplay and applied it to the fallout series.

The reason people are shytting on Bethesda is because gamers are fickle crybabies who cry about everything, just like they cried about NV when it released.

You still haven't explained exactly what makes fallout 4 any less of an rpg game than fallout 3.

It's real easy to improve on existing content when your reusing assets and a formula from another game. And again, NV being a better game was not something that was agreed on till years later when shytting on Bethesda became the popular thing to do.
:stopitslime:

Yall love throwing out these weird ass conspiracies about how Bethesda is just scared of being outshined like the general consensus wasn't that fallout 3 was the better game and NV was just an overpriced expansion pack at the time of release. Now they are secretly trying to turn the series into some multiplayer bullshyt even tho they have clearly stated otherwise.

Gaming community is fukking trash.
:mjlol: FOH
 

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Because the fallout series was some massively popular franchise before Bethesda bought the rights for them right?
:mjlol:

Nether of the first two games sold well at all, they were niche titles at best.

Fallout 3 did well because Bethesda took their widely popular elder scrolls style of gameplay and applied it to the fallout series.

The reason people are shytting on Bethesda is because gamers are fickle crybabies who cry about everything, just like they cried about NV when it released.

You still haven't explained exactly what makes fallout 4 any less of an rpg game than fallout 3.

It's real easy to improve on existing content when your reusing assets and a formula from another game. And again, NV being a better game was not something that was agreed on till years later when shytting on Bethesda became the popular thing to do.
:stopitslime:

Yall love throwing out these weird ass conspiracies about how Bethesda is just scared of being outshined like the general consensus wasn't that fallout 3 was the better game and NV was just an overpriced expansion pack at the time of release. Now they are secretly trying to turn the series into some multiplayer bullshyt even tho they have clearly stated otherwise.

Gaming community is fukking trash.


You don't even know what constitutes an RPG. :russ: Settlement building.:mjlol:

Bethesda gave the sole survivor in Fallout 4 too much of a backstory. Plus it also doesn't help that the game was originally going to have only a male protagonist.


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You can tell the female protagonist option was added later in development. She is a lawyer which also puts into question how she is able to use power armor so soon just after she leaves Vault 111 and handle weaponry. Plus the story makes more sense as a male protagonist rather than a female protagonist.

In New Vegas the Courier was just a person who was shot in the head while delivering a package. That's it. The gamer can create any character they want without having to deal with a detailed backstory.

Bethesda dumbed down the special stats, removed skill points and skill checks, and removed traits. Fallout 4 only allowed charisma checks which is limiting and along with the voiced protagonist hurt the replay value of Fallout 4.

You can't even be evil in Fallout 4. Just a sarcastic jerk. Nuka World doesn't matter because it doesn't even affect the main story.

In New Vegas, depending on your special stats, skills, and traits, you can complete quests and interact with the world in different ways. You can actually be good or evil and replay the game as different types of characters.

Bethesda was also lazy with the overall story for Fallout 4. Its almost the exact same as Fallout 3. Instead of searching for your father you are searching for your son.

If this is all they can do with 7 years of development for Fallout 4 I hate to see what they try next after Fallout 76.
 
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