Falling male earnings have led to a drop in marriage and a rise in out-of-wedlock births
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Read the thread title before opening thread as earrings and was
Lose brain cells brehs
i did a quick scan of the title and read the same
This is what men get a chance to bring to the table in a systemic racism society.
If you pay a black woman more it throws of marriage/dating at it's core because men feel like they can't provide and women feel like they need someone making more.
How does paying a Black woman more money throw off marriage for Black men? Im not following you here, because id think the more money the better, and maybe the man perhaps would want to do better educationally and financially if he truly wants to be THE provider for his family.. Just by your statement alone, aren't you for the oppression of Black people, because if mama not making any money and neither is daddy by much, then what does that say about your beliefs that Black people and women in particular should stay down financially? By default you're cheering on the systematic racism.This is what men get a chance to bring to the table in a systemic racism society.
If you pay a black woman more it throws of marriage/dating at it's core because men feel like they can't provide and women feel like they need someone making more.
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
i believe what he is saying is, black women get hired easier in this society
and in turn when women make more than a man, they don't want that man... so it's hard for a man, even if he's making 60k, to get a woman making 80k
where if it was the direct opposite. a man making 80k, would have zero issues getting with a woman who made 60k or even 30k or 0k
this entire study is showing that women refuse to date down FINANCIALLY.. the man could be a great guy and still working hard and doing his thing... and a woman won't date him purely over his money
but throughout history, men didn't and don't hold women to the same standard.. so the marriage rates are dropping as more women make more money
Exactly...folks just don't get that. Women doing their thing in the workplace has its benefits but downsides because people are selective when it comes to issues with gender roles and performance. Women want equality and rights but still have traditional beliefs when it comes to certain shyt like finances. Its like men have less opportunities but still expected to be the sole bread winner.
because women follow hypergamy, its still stigmatize for a man to make less than a woman. A dr making 300k would have no issues marrying a nurse or even his secretary, but a female dr yeah right.
A woman making 90k wants a man making 100k plus, why do you think so much career orientated black women making gwap are still single, because kyle working at at&t making 35k a year aint good enough even though her 90k and his 35k is 125k
if a man makes less he's looked at as a "non provider"
I think what he saying is that women making more bank can cause the gender roles and dynamics of a normal relationship off balance. Some women may look down on a man making less than her. Some women may start bossing her man around and emasculating him. Some women may feel a man's value is reduced if he makes less...thus causing her mind to look elsewhere for an upgrade. I've met some women who were ok with their men making less but its more socially acceptable for a man to date down than a woman. Its like society changed and this includes the job market, inflation, women rights, etc. where its hard to make it off one income nowadays unless the one person has 6 figures. Those factors make it more feasible to have at least 2 incomes to keep a home functioning. Back in the day...it was easier to make it off 1 income. Nowadays u have some families and couples who are struggling and both are working.
Also, with women doing their thing...that's why some women have this "independent women mindset" whereas some feel they don't need a man. And its true...a heterosexual doesn't need a man to make it...just need him to have a baby.
I don't believe it's just about bank...i'm thinking theres something else to it, Ive seen plenty of them marry and usually the man isn't making much anyways. The men making more seem to be idealist and want the perfect woman, i'm speaking of those single and maybe it s both genders problem. So are you saying that theres a shortage of available record free Black men or a shortage of Black men making money? I see what you're saying in a way...in all honesty she doesn't really need a man if she's making over 100k if having a family isn't her end goal, same goes for the man. People usually settle when they are SERIOUS about getting married. Its unfortunate but the truth.
Okay I figured he was going that route but thank you, I standby my original argument in all fairness. Its 2017 not 1917, you guys gotta get with the times or be left standing on that platform waiting for that never train. She doesn't need the man in physical form per se but his sperm will do when it comes to procreating. Another thing, theres a lot of men out here looking for come ups, its scary. The times are truly changing.
In all honesty, I see a lot of blaming/finger pointing. Black men should act like household leaders by better educating themselves which lead to fulfilling careers and ultimately more money instead of getting PhDs in being players in nonsense/foolishness, Im just saying. Black women are in college far more than Black men, if theres anybody to blame, it is the man for not stepping up to the plate to handle his business.
Thank you for so eloquently explaining this study.
Mr. McDowell
The Brotha's Got His Own Money
If the woman makes more than the man (at least in Western cultures), it's going to be hard to make that work. For a multitude of reasons, but the main one being the thing that western society is trying to abolish... gender roles.
So we want to abolish gender roles, but in relationships the man still needs to be the provider. Something about that, doesn't make much sense and thus all the confusion you see out there in the world. Black men don't earn as much as they could because they are hated in the workplace, regardless of education level. That's why so many pound the drums of entrepreneurship because they know that they have zero job security working for non-black people.
This is simply the world we live in and we have to adapt/adjust or live with failure.
So we want to abolish gender roles, but in relationships the man still needs to be the provider. Something about that, doesn't make much sense and thus all the confusion you see out there in the world. Black men don't earn as much as they could because they are hated in the workplace, regardless of education level. That's why so many pound the drums of entrepreneurship because they know that they have zero job security working for non-black people.
This is simply the world we live in and we have to adapt/adjust or live with failure.
The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
Yeah, but most women don't cook or clean anymore, TBH
fukk the democrats, but what is this FREE education you right wingers keep talking about? Every Black person I know who went to college has TONS of debt and had to take out loans.
And what slavery did was give White people 400 years of stolen wealth to rig the game in their favor.
And staying out of trouble is hard when there's no jobs & no hope, which is exactly what all the White people in Appalacha who are now dying of overdoses and filling jails are finding out. It was real easy for them to talk about our "culture' when they still had jobs and money, but now they don't, they're falling to pieces.
