FACTS BEHIND THE MURDER OF TUPAC SHAKUR

[Bigsuk]

Only man whom knows the facts is no longer here to tell it

Add keffe dee he already let the world know exactly what went down that night ..... Baby lane , zip , deandre smith and terrence brown all resting in the dirt

 

[Bigsuk]

Y'all some simple black and white niccaz..You can be pro black and still have black enemies.

You can hang around gangs and still be pro black.

Growing up in the 90's, a bunch of gang members was on the NOI/5% pro black tip.

The children of the revolution(Pac's generation) are actually the ones who started the gangs.

It was nothing but an offshoot of the Panthers....but then crack came and fukked it up.That's when niccaz really started fighting & dying over territory.

So that whole generation was like a broken fraternity.Splintered in 2...Some caught up in actual gangbanging, some hustling down other avenues....But even then, there was always a sort of fellowship/affinity amongst each other.Even throughout the madness, people were more conscious/principled back then.

It's more complex than some "Menace II Society" shyt.....If you're just looking at movies, reading message boards, and magazine articles/blogs...You'll just end up with a sensationalized perspective.....Becoming a negative nancy/Monday morning QB/finger pointing goofball.

You had to have been there and grew up in it.Niccaz get a few nuggets of info off the internet and think they know everything


Be mad

Miss me with that bullshyt .... nikkas dont give a fukk about nikkas preaching black power shyt ... U really think orlando anderson ... A stone cold killer with bodies under his belt before the tupac situation that is known for shootings al over his hood is gona let a rapper (who's basically crossing the line trying to be down with some piru shyt ) set the tone for him getting beatup,show up in 1 ov the biggest casino lobbys around He had to claw back his respect or else he would be clowned if he didnt do something .... Face it nikka orlando killed pac ... Was bragging around his hood,
Was smirking about it alll over cnn and even landos death he was having a shoot-out point blank range with 2 crip nikkas killing them before himself dying .... shows what kinda nikka he was and why would mob piru go to war with sscc litrally the day after pac was shot and litrally 15 shootings cracked off over the next week pirus knew sscc killed pac .. I know its hard for u to comprehend that some gangbanger like baby lane killed pac but thats exactly what happend ...

 

[BaRRyG]

crazy how eazy knew baby lane and lane was friends with bg knoccout. Suge was very lucky Eazy passed.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Miss me with that bullshyt .... nikkas dont give a fukk about nikkas preaching black power shyt ... U really think orlando anderson ... A stone cold killer with bodies under his belt before the tupac situation that is known for shootings al over his hood is gona let a rapper (who's basically crossing the line trying to be down with some piru shyt ) set the tone for him getting beatup,show up in 1 ov the biggest casino lobbys around He had to claw back his respect or else he would be clowned if he didnt do something .... Face it nikka orlando killed pac ... Was bragging around his hood,
Was smirking about it alll over cnn and even landos death he was having a shoot-out point blank range with 2 crip nikkas killing them before himself dying .... shows what kinda nikka he was and why would mob piru go to war with sscc litrally the day after pac was shot and litrally 15 shootings cracked off over the next week pirus knew sscc killed pac .. I know its hard for u to comprehend that some gangbanger like baby lane killed pac but thats exactly what happend ...

My post wasn't about whether Orlando killed Pac or not

That being said, niccaz are easy to fool.

 

[richaveli83]

That angle never sat right with me, too loud and too many moving parts.

I'd put money on certain alphabet agencies knowing what went down, however you know how they do, look at that mafia shootout in Philly back in the 90's, FBI watched the whole thing go down caught that shyt on tape, did nothing to stop it, why?

They were building a case and it was crucial evidence.

Truth is whether Feds, DEA or the boys from Langley they more than likely washed their hands out of sheer embarrassment, remember ol Haitian Jack was working with the feds, how do you explain it to your higher ups, that your informant was in and around a high profile musician, who subsequently gets killed in a drive by?

You can't, you say nothing and pretend you weren't there lest your case falls to pieces, they have bigger fish to fry Bloods + Crips + proximity to the drug trad via mexico you already know what it is, now if you looked at someone like Khalid Muhammad (PBUH) that's where it gets spooky.

Peace

I don't think the government had anything to do with Pac's murder but they were definitely watching him. Going back to his parents being prominent Black Panthers and that Death Row had many ties to the criminal underworld.

 

[richaveli83]

I wish they would let this die. Everyone knows Orlando Anderson killed 2Pac in retaliation for getting his ass whooped by Pac, Suge, and the rest of the crew. A gang war happened days after the shooting in Compton.

2Pac is my man and everything but he was acting really reckless the last few months of his life. In his book former 2Pac bodyguard Frank Alexander talked about 2Pac and the Outlaws wilding out fighting dudes at malls and stuff. Pac got himself into hood politics that didn't involve him and it unfortunately cost him his life and led to the downfall of one of the most powerful and popular rap labels in history.

 

[freetroit]

Y'all some simple black and white niccaz..You can be pro black and still have black enemies.

You can hang around gangs and still be pro black.

Growing up in the 90's, a bunch of gang members was on the NOI/5% pro black tip.

The children of the revolution(Pac's generation) are actually the ones who started the gangs.

It was nothing but an offshoot of the Panthers....but then crack came and fukked it up.That's when niccaz really started fighting & dying over territory.

So that whole generation was like a broken fraternity.Splintered in 2...Some caught up in actual gangbanging, some hustling down other avenues....But even then, there was always a sort of fellowship/affinity amongst each other.Even throughout the madness, people were more conscious/principled back then.

It's more complex than some "Menace II Society" shyt.....If you're just looking at movies, reading message boards, and magazine articles/blogs...You'll just end up with a sensationalized perspective.....Becoming a negative nancy/Monday morning QB/finger pointing goofball.

You had to have been there and grew up in it.Niccaz get a few nuggets of info off the internet and think they know everything


Be mad

This is true and pac was able to control that narrative while running with gangsters in other parts of the country

But that la gang scene was too overwhelming for the bro

He could not handle la gang politics like he could in other states. Pac had run ins with gds in milwaukee ran with haitian jack and was all through the bay during his

I dont give a fukk if you blood or cuz days

Even that shyt was giving him near death experiences but he would always escape cause he had clout like that

But the la scene was just a different animal because its too deep rooted and organized for some one not from out that way to navigate

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

This is true and pac was able to control that narrative while running with gangsters in other parts of the country

But that la gang scene was too overwhelming for the bro

He could not handle la gang politics like he could in other states. Pac had run ins with gds in milwaukee ran with haitian jack and was all through the bay during his

I dont give a fukk if you blood or cuz days

Even that shyt was giving him near death experiences but he would always escape cause he had clout like that

But the la scene was just a different animal because its too deep rooted and organized for some one not from out that way to navigate

And one of the more unspoken sides of LA gang politics is niccaz working with the police.

You never know how deep that shyt might go.

Or what niccaz will do for money/to cop a plea.

I'm just saying, it's possible that Orlando had handlers that controlled his every move(If you think Pac was set up by Law Enforcement)

Even the "Orlando went back bragging" could be selling the gang narrative.It's also a good way to start a gang war.Maybe that was the whole point?

I'm not saying I know what happened.It could be some simple gang shyt like they're saying.

I just see elements of a plot.....a pattern of man made design.

They coincidentally bump into Orlando in the lobby......then damn near 3 hours later, they coincidentally spot Pac & Suge on the strip....Pac & Suge coincidentally getting pulled over by a bicycle cop right before the shooting...the white cadillac coincidentally having a clear lane to pull up to the BMW..etc..etc.


Who knows......I'm just not ready to say "IT WAS EXACTLY THIS" or demean people who have a different opinion about how the murder was carried out.

That's the shyt that irks me.

 

[DarkmanX]

if pac stole that dudes songs he would have put him on eventually

its not like that dude wasnt around then all of a sudden came back

plus that shyt would have came out wayyyyyy back then


the longer people talk about this shyt the more wild fukkery pops up out of nowhere


plus nikkas wanna look powerful so bad ... I still believe all the original shyt about how pac's bank account never closed and all million other reasons with the name change to makaveli and in between ... you dont think its weird pacs mom died before this mega smash hit record breaking movie is gonna drop? that bytch is just gonna be frail as fukk and die on her houseboat right before payday?


you can say what you want about the streets but Pac would have been touched a million different ways and times from 93 - 96


you're really gonna believe on the most convenient day in the most obscure place ... under the weirdest circumstance that would be the time to kill him? the day he magically doesnt wear a vest right after he starts wearing an angel of death pendant talking about exit tupac enter makaveli ... hide and kill my enemies *flying away in a helicopter at the end of 7 day theory* talking about getting his money right finally so he can shyt on you .... then there's eye witness accounts of them airlifting him out of the strip ... and suge supposedly drove him to the hospital but there's crime scene pictures of the car in the same place it was shot up

Im NOT sayin that shyt is true, but yall do know Lil Half Dead is from Long Beach and rolled with Snoop & them, right? He was around the Death Row days. So thats the reason he "came back".

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

A lot of misinfo being spread here.
The Info doesn't state that half dead wrote brendys for a baby.

PAC was already involved in la gang politics prior to DR. He got involved with it around the time he was filiming poetic justice. All of the members of thug life claimed sets except for mopreme. It was a group of crips that helped beat down the Hughes brothers. I think since PAC hung with crips pre DR his plan was to hang with bloods and then bring them together. The ten point code of thug life is political. So was the rally that he took part in prior to his death that dealt with affirmative action. In one of his last interview he spoke of starting a political party.

I love how 2Pac was going to be this huge polititcal pro black figure but yet he was gangbanging as the biggest rapper on Earth and also attacking Sam Sneed for having East Coast rappers in his video. Pac's ignorance was at its apex. Pac is so political and pro black, yet he was fascinated by grimy gangsters like Haitian Jack and Jimmy Henchman. Pac died selling wolf tickets. He was never going to get revenge on legit street monsters like them.. He shouldve took his L and kept it moving..But his pride caused him to escalate a situation that he wasnt equipped to handle..Im gonna destroy everything you touch..Lol..what a failure of a plan..

He was hanging around those guys for his role in above the rim. It's not uncommon for an actor to submerge themselves into whatever element they are going to play while preparing for a role. I think he just got caught up.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Miss me with that bullshyt .... nikkas dont give a fukk about nikkas preaching black power shyt ...

Black gangs arose and where created from that black power shyt, too..

 

[Bigsuk]

I wish they would let this die. Everyone knows Orlando Anderson killed 2Pac in retaliation for getting his ass whooped by Pac, Suge, and the rest of the crew. A gang war happened days after the shooting in Compton.

2Pac is my man and everything but he was acting really reckless the last few months of his life. In his book former 2Pac bodyguard Frank Alexander talked about 2Pac and the Outlaws wilding out fighting dudes at malls and stuff. Pac got himself into hood politics that didn't involve him and it unfortunately cost him his life and led to the downfall of one of the most powerful and popular rap labels in history.

This ..... I said this before am not 1 for been into spritual type shyt ... But i will say this from late 94-97 there was deffo a huge dark cloud with alot ov negavite energy surrounding hiphop that created easily the most darkest time in hiphop

 

[Skip b]

crazy how eazy knew baby lane and lane was friends with bg knoccout. Suge was very lucky Eazy passed.

This.....


Baby Lane had to be legit in the early 90's as a youngin for the big Homie Easy E to acknowledge him

 

[-Quikness-]

Y'all some simple black and white niccaz..You can be pro black and still have black enemies.

You can hang around gangs and still be pro black.

Growing up in the 90's, a bunch of gang members was on the NOI/5% pro black tip.

The children of the revolution(Pac's generation) are actually the ones who started the gangs.

It was nothing but an offshoot of the Panthers....but then crack came and fukked it up.That's when niccaz really started fighting & dying over territory.

So that whole generation was like a broken fraternity.Splintered in 2...Some caught up in actual gangbanging, some hustling down other avenues....But even then, there was always a sort of fellowship/affinity amongst each other.Even throughout the madness, people were more conscious/principled back then.

It's more complex than some "Menace II Society" shyt.....If you're just looking at movies, reading message boards, and magazine articles/blogs...You'll just end up with a sensationalized perspective.....Becoming a negative nancy/Monday morning QB/finger pointing goofball.

You had to have been there and grew up in it.Niccaz get a few nuggets of info off the internet and think they know everything


Be mad

preach!