Diddy got sued for doing the same thing to White ppl at RevoltFacebook did not hire Black employees because they were not a 'culture fit,' report says
Yelena Dzhanova
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- Three Black people allege Facebook chose not to hire them because they weren't a "culture fit."
- "There's no doubt you can do the job," a manager said before using the culture-fit line, a report says.
- Critics have criticized the idea of a "culture fit," arguing it sidelines people of color.
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After initial reports of Facebook turning down Black applicants for positions because they weren't a "culture fit," more people have filed complaints alleging similar experiences.
A Washington Post article published Tuesday said three Black applicants were rejected from jobs at Facebook despite having met all the qualifications.
The three applicants filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the agency that investigates workplace discrimination.
"There's no doubt you can do the job, but we're really looking for a culture fit," one hiring manager told one of the three candidates, according to The Post.
A Facebook operations manager, Oscar Veneszee Jr., told the paper he believes several qualified applicants he referred to jobs at the company were rejected because they weren't a "culture fit."
"When I was interviewing at Facebook, the thing I was told constantly was that I needed to be a culture fit, and when I tried to recruit people, I knew I needed [to] find people who were a culture fit," he told The Post. "But unfortunately not many people I knew could pass that challenge because the culture here does not reflect the culture of Black people."
The EEOC began investigating Facebook last summer over bias allegations, The Post added.
Critics have criticized workplaces pursuing the idea of a "culture fit" in their hiring practices because, they argue, it creates an inclination to hire white workers while sidelining people of color.
In a 2018 article published by the Society for Human Resource Management, a professional membership association in Alexandria, Virginia, one HR expert said "culture fit" is subjective and indicates the hiring decision is largely not based "on the candidate's ability to deliver results."
A Facebook spokesperson, when reached for comment, gave the following statement.
"We've added diversity and inclusion goals to senior leaders' performance reviews. We take seriously allegations of discrimination and have robust policies and processes in place for employees to report concerns, including concerns about microaggressions and policy violations," the spokesperson said.
The spokesperson also said the company did not take "culture fit" into account when hiring for jobs.
Rhett Lindsey, a former recruiter with Facebook, told The Post, "There is no culture fit check mark on an application form, but at Facebook it is like this invisible cloud that hangs over candidates of color."
170 plus tickets, each month? How did you do it, so fast?My 1st incident in IT of dealing with racism was going to a career fair
The 1st vendor was some Asian guy who's a senior at some Asian-owned tech company; Handed him my resume and he just looked at me with thinly veiled disgust and reluctance; then proceeds to lecture me about how I needed to have "passion".
Passion is liberal, tech industry code-speak for non-black, exploitable and privileged enough to have had access to spare PCs to tinker with since the age of 7. I cut him off and told him to keep it to himself and moved on
2nd vendor was some company hiring for alot of PC repair positions. Table of about 7 representatives, Mostly white with a couple asians, and indians. They looked visibly uncomfortable and unsure what to say. Then, some 50yr old cac dude let's out a subtle sigh and tells me how I can go to their website...yada, yada. I already knew what time it is by that intense "I wanna call you a ni&&er, so bad" look in his eyes. Gave him my resume anyways. As expected, Never heard from them.
3rd vendor was the same shyt , I was fed up. It was clear as day, nobody was gonna fukk with me. they wastough. That's when I just stared every single one of them Mfers in the eyes very intently and snatched my resume back and shook my head while walking off.
I ended up finding my 1st job on my own through indeed, It was an Asset Management job paying $18/hr; It was cool for a while until I noticed they had no intention of letting me cross train and learn other shyt so I can move up; Even though I showed I was more than capable. Also, they ended up hiring these herb ass dudes. One of them the son of the VP and the other the son of Director of purchasing. They did the bare minimum, sometimes less, but nobody in the office was going to say anything to them, so it was all on me to get shyt done or risk falling behind til I got burned out. Asked the manager to put me on a 3 day work schedule. That's when I got heavy on my self-study grind and started prepping for my exit.
2 months later got a VDI support/SysAdmin job (hell of a leap, I know) paying 28/hr. shyt changed my life, But there was alot of shyt that came along with that as well. This irritating middle aged gay cac was always trying to instigate shyt and had a fukked up attitude in general. Had an incdient where another breh was in a meeting with me getting training. He's trying to cram in some snack to keep his blood sugar up and the mic is picking it up. Gay cac comes over furious like he bout to wreck some shyt, slamming his hands on our cubicle and shouting and cursing and threatening us. I motioned to get up but OG breh was quicker on the draw and he got up and was about to come around that cubicle and beat his azz. Me and OG breh decided to calm down and just WFH for the rest of the day to keep from killing this fukking bytch ass cac. As we're walking out of our little room, we see a soultrain line of MFers who came from all over the office to huddle around our room because the commotion between us and that gay cac.
Multiple people witnessed the shyt but our manager insisted that we were imagining the problem. I wanted to kill this MF, quite literally for even having the gall to try and gaslight me and OG breh. Me and OG breh started holding secret Webex meetings to talk about all the fukk shyt and to make sure we synchronized with each other to Cover our asses just in case. When OG breh left for something better, Once again everything was on me. I was the one knocking out 170-210 tickets per month while the gay cac, still gainfully employed is doing the bare minimal. The other people on my team were mostly people who didnt have acces for MONTHS. except this other older breh who was a complete fukkin idiot who tried to throw me under the bus when the heat was on his ass for fukking something up.
yada, yada... Something something
I found another job paying $85k soon after and they were fukked.
Long post, but I just want to give my personal story of shyt I 've deal with in IT. If you black and got the money, lawyer the fukk up just in case. and Document everything.
Is that right?
That's y'all nikkas 'go-to'.
So what is it about you that's 'threatening'? You have a law degree, you got into a prestigious school, graduated from said school. Most hood nikkas would put you in that 'non-threatening' category just off the strength of that.
Look, most of us that grew up in upper middle class environments don't have cultural fit issues when working in industries that employ the upper middle class.
I don't know what else to tell ya...
Now, why not work for what you want to be!
Yeah, I've seen people on the defensive side protecting Facebook on this topic over at r/Technology which is funny considering how much smoke they have for Facebook when it comes to certain subjects, but with this one, their
Fit, meritocrocy are all jargon based on discriminatory tactics, used, to prevent underrepresented groups from having a fair chance at job opportunities.They can probably get away with it. Its more than likely black people they are interviewing aren't on that happy,smiling,Donald Glover shyt
Most of us are just not corny,friendly like all the other races. And even if you are,you might only be that way with black people because you don't understand other races brand of "fun" and "happy".Even being a cornball brotha alone probably wouldn't fit that "culture".
But from what I've seen of Zuckerberg,seems like he has the personality similar to watching paint dry. I would think he wouldn't care about personality and would want the best people for the job. They've figured out a slick way to not higher black people and not have it be specefically about race. Many non americanized asians and indians wouldn't fit the mold either. But I think it will disproportionatly effect black people as usual,since there are probably fewer of us up for these jobs to begin with.
The EEOC needs to do a better job in being engaged in making organizations hire they own candidates and holding organizations that abuse applicants and discriminate on job seekers and employees.
do you understand when they tell black workers you don't fit the "culture"?!? Do you know that's a codeword to them??? They mean WHITE culture...
. But shyts a reality. You can either wait for white ppl to get their shyt together, wait for the revolution, or play the game. It’s a shytty reality, but it is what it is.
Keep dreaming
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