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yeah i had to edit my post cuz i didnt mean to send, but yeah you right
i was gettin it in.
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yeah i had to edit my post cuz i didnt mean to send, but yeah you right
i was gettin it in.
Nasty_Nate
Each one, teach one...
i was enlisted in the air force and was fukkin a officer that i worked with for
about 4 months. She would do oral surgeries and wouldnt have a clue
what the fukk to do. Patients would be sedated and she would let me pull the
teeth. They wake up and be like thank you doc. im sittin there like
I'm Army. When I was a young SPC going through AIT to reclass, I met this CPT that was there for OBC. fukked the shyt outta that bytch for about two months until my AIT was over.
itsyoung!!
Veteran
Theres the dope game, the rap game and the car game.
No business is dirtier than the car game except maybe real estate.
for customers:
*customer gets approved for 12% interest rate*
manager tells you go out and tell them they approved for 18%
, because that way if they want a lower payment, you can negotiate the interest rate, and it will bring down the payment, without lowering the actual price of the car. This is how they rape people with bad credit or think they have bad credit. 
if you got good credit... Dealerships get paid on 2 points(or 2% however you want to say it). This is how they make a majority of their money So whatever interest rate they are telling you, you can more than likely subtract 2% from it and thats what you actually got approved for. So if they tell you 10%, you really got approved for 8%. 2% is huge for them, it could be the difference between no money at all from the bank and thousands depending how big the loan is and how long the loan is for.
They WANT you to buy used cars. Newer used cars though(as in they havnt been for sale long on the lot). New cars believe it or not, do not have that much mark up, but we gonna cover that a little later for the employee section. Used cars have all the mark up. And they aint doing you any favors by buying your used car.. they dont go buy Kelly blue book unless YOU bring it up. They go by what is called the black book (what the cars are going for at auctions and the market on the car).
*dealership convinces customer their honda accord is worth $8,000. The kelly blue book value of the car is $12,000, the dealership gonna sell that car on the lot for $14,000 and go down from there*
But believe it or not, banks are in your favor for this. Banks wont let the dealerships really fukk you that bad if you have bad credit. If you have good credit the banks will allow you to get fukked on this
but if you got fukked up credit, the banks want the loan, but dont the risk of a bad credit person with a $14,000 loan so the banks gonna hit the dealership with whats called a bank fee and bring the car down to around kelly blue book price range. Banks really looking out for themselves, but really it is in your favor if you have bad credit and the dealership tryna fukk you 
for employees..... I cant wish working at a car dealership on anyone honestly. If my kids try and work at a dealership id rather just support them for longer.
The hours are the worst hours in any industry, I am not sure how they arent illegal honestly. I did that shyt for a year, and the least amount of hours I worked in a month was around 220 hours
every saturday was 8:30 am to 9 pm you are SCHEDULED for 50+ hour work weeks. How can they schedule you for over time and that shyt not be illegal
and its based on whats called a "draw" so its not hourly. So lets say your draw is $2000(depends on dealership). For you to get paid commission on cars, your commission has to pass your draw.
Then you got whats called a "mini" a mini is the minimum amount of commission you will get per car you sell. My dealership mini was $100 for new cars and $125 for used cars. That is right, you could sell 10 cars (the average car salesman in the US sells 7 cars per month) and make $1000.
One month I sold 10 cars, made $7500. Next month I sold 10 cars, didnt hit the $2000 draw couldnt stand the inconsistency, cant raise a family on that shyt not knowing what you gonna be making month to month regardless of how good of a sales person you.
Lets use that honda accord from above as an example on how you get paid
Keep in mind, you stole that car from the customer for $8,000. Kelly Blue Book value is $12,000. You sold it for $14,000. $6,000 profit right? Wrong. The dealership gonna pay you the difference between the profit and the value of the car. So $2000, and pocket the other $4,000. Depending on your dealership your commission is 20-30%. The dealership has something called "pact" where every deal so much is given back to the dealership/owner. Our pact was $500. So now that $2000 is now $1500. I was always in the 30% tier, so now you get 30% of 1500. So you get $450 commission off that 1 car.
Keep in mind, you absolutely robbed those customers from the car, and sold it at full "sticker" price and got $450. Not bad right? This is the perfect sale, and you would have to do 10 of these to even get $4500... 10! The perfect car sale can net you $450, imagine when customers negotiate.
90% of the customers coming in have quotes from kelly blue book and shyt and just buy cars at invoice (you will get a mini for this, so collect your $100 or $125 per car) or wanna negotiate which usually ends up in a mini as well.
So while you aint caking, the dealership is
No business is dirtier than the car game except maybe real estate.
for customers:
*customer gets approved for 12% interest rate*
manager tells you go out and tell them they approved for 18%
, because that way if they want a lower payment, you can negotiate the interest rate, and it will bring down the payment, without lowering the actual price of the car. This is how they rape people with bad credit or think they have bad credit. if you got good credit... Dealerships get paid on 2 points(or 2% however you want to say it). This is how they make a majority of their money So whatever interest rate they are telling you, you can more than likely subtract 2% from it and thats what you actually got approved for. So if they tell you 10%, you really got approved for 8%. 2% is huge for them, it could be the difference between no money at all from the bank and thousands depending how big the loan is and how long the loan is for.
They WANT you to buy used cars. Newer used cars though(as in they havnt been for sale long on the lot). New cars believe it or not, do not have that much mark up, but we gonna cover that a little later for the employee section. Used cars have all the mark up. And they aint doing you any favors by buying your used car.. they dont go buy Kelly blue book unless YOU bring it up. They go by what is called the black book (what the cars are going for at auctions and the market on the car).
*dealership convinces customer their honda accord is worth $8,000. The kelly blue book value of the car is $12,000, the dealership gonna sell that car on the lot for $14,000 and go down from there*
But believe it or not, banks are in your favor for this. Banks wont let the dealerships really fukk you that bad if you have bad credit. If you have good credit the banks will allow you to get fukked on this
but if you got fukked up credit, the banks want the loan, but dont the risk of a bad credit person with a $14,000 loan so the banks gonna hit the dealership with whats called a bank fee and bring the car down to around kelly blue book price range. Banks really looking out for themselves, but really it is in your favor if you have bad credit and the dealership tryna fukk you for employees..... I cant wish working at a car dealership on anyone honestly. If my kids try and work at a dealership id rather just support them for longer.
The hours are the worst hours in any industry, I am not sure how they arent illegal honestly. I did that shyt for a year, and the least amount of hours I worked in a month was around 220 hours
every saturday was 8:30 am to 9 pm you are SCHEDULED for 50+ hour work weeks. How can they schedule you for over time and that shyt not be illegal and its based on whats called a "draw" so its not hourly. So lets say your draw is $2000(depends on dealership). For you to get paid commission on cars, your commission has to pass your draw.
Then you got whats called a "mini" a mini is the minimum amount of commission you will get per car you sell. My dealership mini was $100 for new cars and $125 for used cars. That is right, you could sell 10 cars (the average car salesman in the US sells 7 cars per month) and make $1000.
One month I sold 10 cars, made $7500. Next month I sold 10 cars, didnt hit the $2000 draw
couldnt stand the inconsistency, cant raise a family on that shyt not knowing what you gonna be making month to month regardless of how good of a sales person you.Lets use that honda accord from above as an example on how you get paid
Keep in mind, you stole that car from the customer for $8,000. Kelly Blue Book value is $12,000. You sold it for $14,000. $6,000 profit right? Wrong. The dealership gonna pay you the difference between the profit and the value of the car. So $2000, and pocket the other $4,000. Depending on your dealership your commission is 20-30%. The dealership has something called "pact" where every deal so much is given back to the dealership/owner. Our pact was $500. So now that $2000 is now $1500. I was always in the 30% tier, so now you get 30% of 1500. So you get $450 commission off that 1 car.
Keep in mind, you absolutely robbed those customers from the car, and sold it at full "sticker" price and got $450. Not bad right? This is the perfect sale, and you would have to do 10 of these to even get $4500... 10! The perfect car sale can net you $450, imagine when customers negotiate.
90% of the customers coming in have quotes from kelly blue book and shyt and just buy cars at invoice (you will get a mini for this, so collect your $100 or $125 per car) or wanna negotiate which usually ends up in a mini as well.
So while you aint caking, the dealership is
Cole Cash
They took a hammer and sickle to my back
Theres the dope game, the rap game and the car game.
No business is dirtier than the car game except maybe real estate.
for customers:
*customer gets approved for 12% interest rate*
manager tells you go out and tell them they approved for 18%
if you got good credit... Dealerships get paid on 2 points(or 2% however you want to say it). This is how they make a majority of their money So whatever interest rate they are telling you, you can more than likely subtract 2% from it and thats what you actually got approved for. So if they tell you 10%, you really got approved for 8%. 2% is huge for them, it could be the difference between no money at all from the bank and thousands depending how big the loan is and how long the loan is for.
They WANT you to buy used cars. Newer used cars though(as in they havnt been for sale long on the lot). New cars believe it or not, do not have that much mark up, but we gonna cover that a little later for the employee section. Used cars have all the mark up. And they aint doing you any favors by buying your used car.. they dont go buy Kelly blue book unless YOU bring it up. They go by what is called the black book (what the cars are going for at auctions and the market on the car).
*dealership convinces customer their honda accord is worth $8,000. The kelly blue book value of the car is $12,000, the dealership gonna sell that car on the lot for $14,000 and go down from there*
But believe it or not, banks are in your favor for this. Banks wont let the dealerships really fukk you that bad if you have bad credit. If you have good credit the banks will allow you to get fukked on this
for employees..... I cant wish working at a car dealership on anyone honestly. If my kids try and work at a dealership id rather just support them for longer.
The hours are the worst hours in any industry, I am not sure how they arent illegal honestly. I did that shyt for a year, and the least amount of hours I worked in a month was around 220 hours
and its based on whats called a "draw" so its not hourly. So lets say your draw is $2000(depends on dealership). For you to get paid commission on cars, your commission has to pass your draw.
Then you got whats called a "mini" a mini is the minimum amount of commission you will get per car you sell. My dealership mini was $100 for new cars and $125 for used cars. That is right, you could sell 10 cars (the average car salesman in the US sells 7 cars per month) and make $1000.
One month I sold 10 cars, made $7500. Next month I sold 10 cars, didnt hit the $2000 draw
Lets use that honda accord from above as an example on how you get paid
Keep in mind, you stole that car from the customer for $8,000. Kelly Blue Book value is $12,000. You sold it for $14,000. $6,000 profit right? Wrong. The dealership gonna pay you the difference between the profit and the value of the car. So $2000, and pocket the other $4,000. Depending on your dealership your commission is 20-30%. The dealership has something called "pact" where every deal so much is given back to the dealership/owner. Our pact was $500. So now that $2000 is now $1500. I was always in the 30% tier, so now you get 30% of 1500. So you get $450 commission off that 1 car.
Keep in mind, you absolutely robbed those customers from the car, and sold it at full "sticker" price and got $450. Not bad right? This is the perfect sale, and you would have to do 10 of these to even get $4500... 10! The perfect car sale can net you $450, imagine when customers negotiate.
90% of the customers coming in have quotes from kelly blue book and shyt and just buy cars at invoice (you will get a mini for this, so collect your $100 or $125 per car) or wanna negotiate which usually ends up in a mini as well.
So while you aint caking, the dealership is
excellent post
JasonSJackson
Jah Sun Ma'at Ra
who got the other 70%?
1970s HeRon Flow
Takin Penitentiary Chances
I was thinkn of buyin a used car by myself and have no credit,im scared now brehsTheres the dope game, the rap game and the car game.
No business is dirtier than the car game except maybe real estate.
for customers:
*customer gets approved for 12% interest rate*
manager tells you go out and tell them they approved for 18%, because that way if they want a lower payment, you can negotiate the interest rate, and it will bring down the payment, without lowering the actual price of the car. This is how they rape people with bad credit or think they have bad credit.
if you got good credit... Dealerships get paid on 2 points(or 2% however you want to say it). This is how they make a majority of their money So whatever interest rate they are telling you, you can more than likely subtract 2% from it and thats what you actually got approved for. So if they tell you 10%, you really got approved for 8%. 2% is huge for them, it could be the difference between no money at all from the bank and thousands depending how big the loan is and how long the loan is for.
They WANT you to buy used cars. Newer used cars though(as in they havnt been for sale long on the lot). New cars believe it or not, do not have that much mark up, but we gonna cover that a little later for the employee section. Used cars have all the mark up. And they aint doing you any favors by buying your used car.. they dont go buy Kelly blue book unless YOU bring it up. They go by what is called the black book (what the cars are going for at auctions and the market on the car).
*dealership convinces customer their honda accord is worth $8,000. The kelly blue book value of the car is $12,000, the dealership gonna sell that car on the lot for $14,000 and go down from there*
But believe it or not, banks are in your favor for this. Banks wont let the dealerships really fukk you that bad if you have bad credit. If you have good credit the banks will allow you to get fukked on this
for employees..... I cant wish working at a car dealership on anyone honestly. If my kids try and work at a dealership id rather just support them for longer.
The hours are the worst hours in any industry, I am not sure how they arent illegal honestly. I did that shyt for a year, and the least amount of hours I worked in a month was around 220 hours
and its based on whats called a "draw" so its not hourly. So lets say your draw is $2000(depends on dealership). For you to get paid commission on cars, your commission has to pass your draw.
Then you got whats called a "mini" a mini is the minimum amount of commission you will get per car you sell. My dealership mini was $100 for new cars and $125 for used cars. That is right, you could sell 10 cars (the average car salesman in the US sells 7 cars per month) and make $1000.
One month I sold 10 cars, made $7500. Next month I sold 10 cars, didnt hit the $2000 draw
Lets use that honda accord from above as an example on how you get paid
Keep in mind, you stole that car from the customer for $8,000. Kelly Blue Book value is $12,000. You sold it for $14,000. $6,000 profit right? Wrong. The dealership gonna pay you the difference between the profit and the value of the car. So $2000, and pocket the other $4,000. Depending on your dealership your commission is 20-30%. The dealership has something called "pact" where every deal so much is given back to the dealership/owner. Our pact was $500. So now that $2000 is now $1500. I was always in the 30% tier, so now you get 30% of 1500. So you get $450 commission off that 1 car.
Keep in mind, you absolutely robbed those customers from the car, and sold it at full "sticker" price and got $450. Not bad right? This is the perfect sale, and you would have to do 10 of these to even get $4500... 10! The perfect car sale can net you $450, imagine when customers negotiate.
90% of the customers coming in have quotes from kelly blue book and shyt and just buy cars at invoice (you will get a mini for this, so collect your $100 or $125 per car) or wanna negotiate which usually ends up in a mini as well.
So while you aint caking, the dealership is
I am in Afghanistan and I work with various force protection systems:
There are alot of combat casualties that happened here that could be avoided.
But even in War combat there are politics
See for the military, Afghanistan is broken up into different Taskforces controlled by different Army and Marine units
and the communication between different taskforces is horrible
there have been incidents where one taskforce had info about taliban movement in another taskforces area that could have saved the lives of some soldiers and marines and the information was not passed
and Americans died for no reason
there is so much here that is not being reported
There is also quite a few soldier's deaths that were caused by other service members and those deaths have been rulled suicides or swept under the rug
there is also alot of misappropriation of funds here
the government is just throwing money away out here and stupid amounts
like renting containers that arent being used from commercial companies for $200,000 a year
or paying $3,000 a month to rent a ford f350 for some fat ass contractor to drive around the FOB
this is money the US is just giving away
there is so much more but im tired of typing
There are alot of combat casualties that happened here that could be avoided.
But even in War combat there are politics
See for the military, Afghanistan is broken up into different Taskforces controlled by different Army and Marine units
and the communication between different taskforces is horrible
there have been incidents where one taskforce had info about taliban movement in another taskforces area that could have saved the lives of some soldiers and marines and the information was not passed
and Americans died for no reason
there is so much here that is not being reported
There is also quite a few soldier's deaths that were caused by other service members and those deaths have been rulled suicides or swept under the rug
there is also alot of misappropriation of funds here
the government is just throwing money away out here and stupid amounts
like renting containers that arent being used from commercial companies for $200,000 a year
or paying $3,000 a month to rent a ford f350 for some fat ass contractor to drive around the FOB
this is money the US is just giving away
there is so much more but im tired of typing
man i wish i would have gotten into law enforcement or the army , would have been 
so good
so good
itsyoung!!
Veteran
JasonSJackson
Jah Sun Ma'at Ra
the dealership pocketed the other 70% and the $4,000
thats ridiculous.....
u said u got 30%.........what was the max percentage a saleperson could recieve?
And how was the percentage recieved determined?
Also, if a person buying a car requested to see the bank approval fax could they?
itsyoung!!
Veteran
at my dealership, the max was 30% top tier. we had 3 tiers. Tier 1 (worst sales people) 20%, tier 2 25% and tier 3 30%
I went over how the % is received in the long ass post, basically you only get % of what is 'profit' on the car, and after the dealership takes away the pact.
The customers have the right to see what they really got approved for, but 99.99% customers dont ask and if you do ask, the dealership gonna try their hardest not to actually show it
JasonSJackson
Jah Sun Ma'at Ra
yea, i read ur post but it lost me at "The dealership gonna pay you the difference between the profit and the value of the car. So $2000..."
so they not really paying the difference, they just basing the percentages they pay u off that.
i get it now tho....good lookin on the info
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
LAX,fukk him,tryna tell me i was takin too long puttin on my shoes,i told him to shut his ass up n stand at his spot,it was slow and no one was bhind me
he said: you were taking to long to put your shoes on!!
glad you clowned that goofie,....
phuck that sucker,......salute!!
art barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
I am in Afghanistan and I work with various force protection systems:
There are alot of combat casualties that happened here that could be avoided.
But even in War combat there are politics
See for the military, Afghanistan is broken up into different Taskforces controlled by different Army and Marine units
and the communication between different taskforces is horrible
there have been incidents where one taskforce had info about taliban movement in another taskforces area that could have saved the lives of some soldiers and marines and the information was not passed
and Americans died for no reason
there is so much here that is not being reported
There is also quite a few soldier's deaths that were caused by other service members and those deaths have been rulled suicides or swept under the rug
there is also alot of misappropriation of funds here
the government is just throwing money away out here and stupid amounts
like renting containers that arent being used from commercial companies for $200,000 a year
or paying $3,000 a month to rent a ford f350 for some fat ass contractor to drive around the FOB
this is money the US is just giving away
there is so much more but im tired of typing
i knew procurement fraud was why we were losing so much money in war time.
the people in chsrge siphon off of those fake prices, or procured amounts.
i saw that first hand as a consultsnt.
later i had it solidified when i was a civil engineer tech i, on the dan ryan expressway as an inspector.
america is nuffin but a fraud based business.
politicians are scum and i know for real cause they are/were my neighbors.
plus my dad's card partners,...politicians ain't shyt.
art barr
Nasty_Nate
Each one, teach one...
I am in Afghanistan and I work with various force protection systems:
There are alot of combat casualties that happened here that could be avoided.
But even in War combat there are politics
See for the military, Afghanistan is broken up into different Taskforces controlled by different Army and Marine units
and the communication between different taskforces is horrible
there have been incidents where one taskforce had info about taliban movement in another taskforces area that could have saved the lives of some soldiers and marines and the information was not passed
and Americans died for no reason
there is so much here that is not being reported
There is also quite a few soldier's deaths that were caused by other service members and those deaths have been rulled suicides or swept under the rug
there is also alot of misappropriation of funds here
the government is just throwing money away out here and stupid amounts
like renting containers that arent being used from commercial companies for $200,000 a year
or paying $3,000 a month to rent a ford f350 for some fat ass contractor to drive around the FOB
this is money the US is just giving away
there is so much more but im tired of typing
Yeah bruh, the govt wastes so much fukking money it's crazy! Never been been to Afghanistan, but in Iraq they had contractors getting paid damn near 6 figures to pass out towels at the gym, they brought on contractors from somewhere in Asia to work as cooks, while our cooks sat around and did jack shyt. Then there's the contractor that works in the warehouse making like $100,000 plus tax-free, when some senior supply NCO can do that same shyt much cheaper. Like you said, the shyt goes on and on, too much to type.