Ex Preacher breh says the Bible is fiction

[The Realist Perspective]

Correct, she was a virgin when she was visited by the angel. Verse 41 is when she wasn't a virgin anymore. The "and it came to pass", meaning Joseph knew Mary and now she's pregnant when her cousin Elizabeth came to visit


Anybody that believes everybody black person came on slave ships from Africa to America is uneducated, and should be embarrassed. It's 2025 and the info is easily to obtain. At least people back in the day had an excuse. You nikkas just dumb and lazy.

Mary was absolutely still a virgin when she visited Elizabeth. There’s no biblical evidence to suggest otherwise.

In Luke 1:34-35, Mary says, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?” Gabriel responds that the Holy Spirit will come upon her, and the power of the Most High will overshadow her. This makes it clear that Jesus was conceived miraculously, not through any human interaction. Mary’s virginity is central to this part of the story.

As for Luke 1:41, this is about Mary visiting Elizabeth, who was pregnant with John the Baptist. The text says Elizabeth’s baby leapt in her womb, and she was filled with the Holy Spirit. This moment points to Elizabeth recognizing Mary’s pregnancy as miraculous. There’s nothing here to suggest Mary had relations with Joseph or anyone else.

The phrase “and it came to pass” doesn’t mean anything about sexual relations. It’s just a transitional phrase used all over the Bible to show the next event or the passage of time. For example, Luke 2:1 says, “And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus…” It’s a narrative device, not a comment on Mary’s virginity.

Lastly, Matthew 1:24-25 is explicit: Joseph “knew her not until she had brought forth her firstborn son.” This means they didn’t have any sexual relations until after Jesus was born. The text is very clear on this point.

The idea that Mary wasn’t a virgin by the time she visited Elizabeth doesn’t hold up man. The Bible is consistent: Mary conceived Jesus as a virgin and remained a virgin throughout her pregnancy.

 

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Demonic thread

Snowball babble

 

[boogers]

a good deal of the bible IS fiction. mostly the supernatural parts

but as a record of bronze and iron age life in some societies, it does have historical value

 

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Thanks for saving my time

No problem, breh. I spent way too much time watching that video, reading that book, and searching online to cross check names and lineages

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

The source from what I stated from the video (starts at 28:16, 29:00 when he talks about King James) he posted came from this book: The Negro Question Part 4 The Missing Link by Lee Cummings

I read the whole book he posted by John Macky and no where in it did he state that King James was black. King James VI & I was long died (d 1625) by the time John reached England (1688) and the James he is mostly referring to in that book is King James II.

Memoirs of the Secret Services of John Macky, Esq., During the Reigns of King William, Queen Anne, and King George I.

books.google.com

Not one portrait (drawn while he was alive) of him does he appear to look black. Reading up more on him I found out that he wasn't even a good king or well liked so I don't see why they would take the effort to whitewash him and destroy all evidence of his blackness if that was the case

King James I of England and VI of Scotland - National Portrait Gallery

Reigned Scotland 1567-1625 and England 1603-25 The son of Mary, Queen of Scots and her second husband Lord Darnley, James was crowned King of Scotland in 1567, at the age of one on the abdication of his mother, and the country was run until his maturity by a succession of Protestant Regents. In...

www.npg.org.uk

The whole video is about how king james, his lineage, and his kingdom being black. But somehow this clown turned it into "it's not saying he's black"

 

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The whole video is about how king james, his lineage, and his kingdom being black. But somehow this clown turned it into "it's not saying he's black"

did you even read the John Macky book you posted instead of going by the person in the video?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Mary was absolutely still a virgin when she visited Elizabeth. There’s no biblical evidence to suggest otherwise.

Hebrews 2:17
Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.


His brothers have an earthly mother and father, and Christ wanted to made like us. He had a father.
Romans 1:3-4

Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Seed means sperma
Definition: The male sperm.
Joesph is from the lineage of David, not Mary and plus the definition says male sperm.

And the last nail in the coffin, Angels aka spirits don't procreate

Matthew 22
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

did you even read the John Macky book you posted instead of going by the person in the video?

I have the book. He's a spy and he's giving an account of what he sees. It's basically a census of those countries he's spying on. Black folks everywhere. He also showed another source saying the same black folks were captured and taken as slaves by the French to places like Jamestown, the south, and on the east coast.You must be on crack or some shyt

 

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I have the book. He's a spy and he's giving an account of what he sees. It's basically a census of those countries he's spying on. Black folks everywhere. He also showed another source saying the same black folks were captured and taken as slaves by the French to places like Jamestown, the south, and on the east coast.You must be on crack or some shyt

And none of the "black man" "dark complexion" people he named are of King James VI & I lineage. James II, Charles II and the queen accession (Anne) are of James VI & I direct line.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

And none of the "black man" "dark complexion" people he named are of King James VI & I lineage. James II, Charles II and the queen accession (Anne) are of James VI & I direct line.

That's what the entire book is about
King James VI and I (1566-1625) was a member of the Stuart family and the first king of the United Kingdom:

The word "Stuart" is related to the Old Norse word Svart, which means "black"

• • Sir John Stewart
    Known as "The Black Stewart", possibly due to his dark complexion or because his brother was known as "The Red Stewart"
    
    King Charles II
    Known as the "Black Boy King of England" due to his dark hair and complexion. His mother, Henrietta Maria of France, gave him this nickname
  • • Parliamentary wanted posters
      After the Battle of Worcester, Charles II was referred to as "a tall, black man" in parliamentary wanted posters.

It's a shame how much lying yall being doing on here.

 

[The Realist Perspective]

Hebrews 2:17
Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.


His brothers have an earthly mother and father, and Christ wanted to made like us. He had a father.
Romans 1:3-4

Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Seed means sperma
Definition: The male sperm.
Joesph is from the lineage of David, not Mary and plus the definition says male sperm.

And the last nail in the coffin, Angels aka spirits don't procreate

Matthew 22
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven

These are interesting points, and I appreciate you sharing them. That said, I’ll step back from this discussion, as it seems we’re both firmly set in our perspectives, and continuing won’t be productive. Wishing you well, brother.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

These are interesting points, and I appreciate you sharing them. That said, I’ll step back from this discussion, as it seems we’re both firmly set in our perspectives, and continuing won’t be productive. Wishing you well, brother.

shalom

Takes information from YouTube as the 100% truth with no further fact checking

I have the John Mackey book. I was so interested in all the info in the video, i got tired of not being able to read it all. You don't want to talk history with me buddy

 

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That's what the entire book is about
King James VI and I (1566-1625) was a member of the Stuart family and the first king of the United Kingdom:

The word "Stuart" is related to the Old Norse word Svart, which means "black"

• • Sir John Stewart
    Known as "The Black Stewart", possibly due to his dark complexion or because his brother was known as "The Red Stewart"
    
    King Charles II
    Known as the "Black Boy King of England" due to his dark hair and complexion. His mother, Henrietta Maria of France, gave him this nickname
  • • Parliamentary wanted posters
      After the Battle of Worcester, Charles II was referred to as "a tall, black man" in parliamentary wanted posters.

It's a shame how much lying yall being doing on here.

Last names were typically related to job titles

Middle English steuard, steward, "official in charge of the domestic affairs of a (large) household," from Old English stiward, stigweard "one who has charge of the affairs of the household or estate of another," from stig "hall, pen for cattle, part of a house" (see sty (n.1)) + weard "guard" (from Proto-Germanic *wardaz "guard," from PIE root *wer- (3) "perceive, watch out for"). But OED writes that there is "no grounds for" presuming an origin as "keeper of a (pig) sty."

It was used after the Conquest as the equivalent of Old French seneschal (q.v.) and applied to royal or imperial households and became the title of a class of high officers of the state in early England and Scotland.

The meaning "overseer of workmen" is attested from c. 1300; the general sense of "one who manages affairs of an estate on behalf of his employer" is by late 14c. The sense of "officer on a ship in charge of provisions and meals" is by mid-15c.; extended to trains by 1906. The meaning "person who supervises arrangements" at a meeting, dinner, etc., is from 1703.

The Scottish form (with terminal -t attested from late 14c.) is reflected in Stewart, name of the royal house descended from Walter (the) Steward, who married (1315) Marjorie de Bruce, daughter of King Robert. Stuart is a French spelling, attested from 1429 and adopted by Mary, Queen of Scots.

Stuart | Etymology of the name Stuart by etymonline

Origin and history of the name Stuart: name of the British royal family from 1603 to 1668, a variant of Stewart; see steward. Attested f ... See more.

www.etymonline.com

Black didn't mean the way we use it now or white Americans during that time. Back then they would use moor blackamoor negro Ethiopian to describe black folks.

Was there an African Presence during the English Civil War?

As part of our project, CRAY wanted to address questions we had been asked as to whether there was a ...

www.crayfordhistory.org.uk

Expert Extras | National Civil War Centre, Newark

African Soldiers in the British Civil Wars

"too pure an Air for Slaves to breathe" African Soldiers in the British Civil Wars

lordgreys.weebly.com

In those links you'll see how black folks were depicted and talked about during the 1600s

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Last names were typically related to job titles

Stuart | Etymology of the name Stuart by etymonline

Origin and history of the name Stuart: name of the British royal family from 1603 to 1668, a variant of Stewart; see steward. Attested f ... See more.

www.etymonline.com

Black didn't mean the way we use it now or white Americans during that time. Back then they would use moor blackamoor negro Ethiopian to describe black folks.

Was there an African Presence during the English Civil War?

As part of our project, CRAY wanted to address questions we had been asked as to whether there was a ...

www.crayfordhistory.org.uk

Expert Extras | National Civil War Centre, Newark

African Soldiers in the British Civil Wars

"too pure an Air for Slaves to breathe" African Soldiers in the British Civil Wars

lordgreys.weebly.com

In those links you'll see how black folks were depicted and talked about during the 1600s

It's funny. I knew you would be back with more BS, so i already loaded the clip


The word Stuart comes from the old nordish root Svart which means black. Stuart is the same word as Swarthy, which means black in old English. The damn videos start off by going over the books that verify this.
Svart=black
Stuart=black
Stewart = black
Dub= black
swarthy= black
Tudors = black


This has been gone over plenty of times and even read out of history books in the YouTube videos i provide. You are being disingenuous at this point.

 

[Rusty$hackleford]

I got beat for speaking on the story of the 3 men thrown in a fukking burning furnace
by the king, in which they were literally walking through the flames and speaking and were unharmed. Told my dad early Sunday morning before we got in the car for church that story can’t be real that the story sounded ridiculous and laughed. He didn’t even say nothing. Just beat my ass with the belt and then we went to church I was like 8 years old

Shadrach, Mechach, and Abendago
Lol