Evidence - Weather Or Not (Discussion Thread)

[TheDarceKnight]

I've been listening to this all weekend and it keeps getting better. At first I thought this wasn't as good as Cats and Dogs but it might be better. Ev's catalog the last 10 years is one of the best

I'll work backwards from newest to oldest.

I think he sort of said it best himself. He said he's made albums that probably played smoother and were sequenced better. He just took 16 of the hardest bangers of the songs he's recorded in the past few years and just dropped them. And you can take them or leave them and you'll either like that or not (hence the 'Weather or Not' title). I am bummed that he left off the joint with Prodigy so as not to appear like he was trying to market off P's name. I think we would've understood he wasn't trying to do that. There's honestly not a song on here I don't like, even though the last beat is kind of a hot mess and I think Moving Too Fast should've been cut.

Cats & Dogs was originally much darker, but he ended up cutting some of the more depressing songs in favor of some lighter ones, and it also had some more almost cross-over appeal songs. It's probably the most accessible album he has IMO. He had guys like Rahki on there that were almost producing sort of trap sounding beats, and a lot of the boom-bap beats were lighter and bouncier than what's on Weather or Not. The album overall was a light lighter than this one. It's also the album where he really stopped being just "Mr. Slow Flow" and was influenced by cats like Nas, Jay Elec, Blu, and Fashawn in terms of delivery.

Layover is arguably my favorite project of his, even though it's just an EP (9 songs). It's got a few songs that were meant for Cats & Dogs, and there's not one bad song on there. Plus you got Blu, Phonte, Elzhi, the debut of Fashawn, Aloe Blacc, the first "Step Bros" track, etc. It's nice and short which is great for his style which is fairly one-note. I'd recommend this one to anyone that says he gets boring by the end of a full project.

I have a hard time comparing any of his projects with The Weatherman, just because he's improved so much lyrically and flow-wise since then. It's unique and harder to compare with any of the others, but it set the whole shyt off, and I'm sure it's a lot of people's favorite out of the decade-long 4-project series.

@The Jewnited States you got any thoughts on this album?

 

[Zero]

To answer Rapsody on Love Is A Funny Thing: fukk no

Another Jay reference? Chick is lowkey trash

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

I keep a plantain in back of the coupe

 

[NYK Loyalist]

"Got an ocean in mind, they want to settle for streams"

 

[TheDarceKnight]

"Got an ocean in mind, they want to settle for streams"

"I drove to a mansion and wrote this shyt in front of it, 'cause everyone covets the comfort of us becoming it (rich)! "


The hook on that joint I still find a little bit off-putting, but that verse is one of the better ones on the album. Honestly it's kind of like a sequel to The Red Carpet on the last album..."I took rims and tires and traded them for a ticket to an island, that's where I wrote this rhyme in. It's where I first saw my vision written. Driven by a better living and place to raise kids in."

 

[NYK Loyalist]

"I drove to a mansion and wrote this shyt in front of it, 'cause everyone covets the comfort of us becoming it (rich)! "


The hook on that joint I still find a little bit off-putting, but that verse is one of the better ones on the album. Honestly it's kind of like a sequel to The Red Carpet on the last album..."I took rims and tires and traded them for a ticket to an island, that's where I wrote this rhyme in. It's where I first saw my vision written. Driven by a better living and place to raise kids in."

Ev's verse on Red Carpet is probably my favorite verse from him

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

Love Is A Funny Thing....so beautiful

Alchemist is godly

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Love Is A Funny Thing....so beautiful

Alchemist is godly

He flipped the same sample on both

 

[King Ming]

Please PM me the Lank!

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

He flipped the same sample on both

Alc could make an albums worth of beats just by sampling one song

 

[deeznutz]

Just getting around to bumping this now and I'm loving this shyt. What a great album this is

 

[deeznutz]

What I need followed by long story short

I've enjoyed all of evidence projects but this is hands down my favorite off 5 listens (1 in the whip)

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Good album, but I think I made a mistake in going back to listen to The Layover and The Weatherman LP leading up to this, cause those were SO good that I'm somewhat let down by this. Just shows out nice of a catalog Evidence has with those, Step Brothers, and Cats & Dogs.

 

[ManBearPig]

Who is Jonwayne?

He killed his verse

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Who is Jonwayne?

He killed his verse

His verse definitely stood out, but this is him