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The problem with their ranking system is it doesn't have any standardization.

Is it based on JUST lyricism, or "impact", or discography? What?

There are rappers that are all-time great lyricist but their discography is trash while there are rappers that are decent lyrically but their discography is strong.

Joe flip-flops so much that there is no uniformity to his ranking system.


He said it was based on all that stuff. they explained it
 

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The problem with their ranking system is it doesn't have any standardization.

Is it based on JUST lyricism, or "impact", or discography? What?

There are rappers that are all-time great lyricist but their discography is trash while there are rappers that are decent lyrically but their discography is strong.

Joe flip-flops so much that there is no uniformity to his ranking system.
He said everything
 
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I stopped listening when joe budden started talking about "computers putin"... if youre a true cam fan then u know that basing that one line on his ability as a lyricist is stupid as fukk

the same dude who got co-signed by biggie as the best nikka out of harlem and the same dude who was going bar for bar with big l yet his whole lyrical ability is based on a couple one liners he had, fukking casuals:camby:

and cam>>>>>>>>>game

cam made the waves, game just rode them:umad:
purple haze, CHWM, DI>>>any game album:umad:
 

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I stopped listening when joe budden started talking about "computers putin"... if youre a true cam fan then u know that basing that one line on his ability as a lyricist is stupid as fukk

the same dude who got co-signed by biggie as the best nikka out of harlem and the same dude who was going bar for bar with big l yet his whole lyrical ability is based on a couple one liners he had, fukking casuals:camby:
He's not the hip hop guru I thought he was. Computers Putin is something a cac would bring up

Killa has rhyme schemes Joe couldn't dream up
 

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He's not the hip hop guru I thought he was. Computers Putin is something a cac would bring up

Killa has rhyme schemes Joe couldn't dream up


The nikka praised cam the whole episode. yall stay gettin mad over one thing. He even said the line was hot. shyt was wack for real. Cam had a stage maybe after come home with me where some of his raps started sounding like some nursery rhymes.
 

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The nikka praised cam the whole episode. yall stay gettin mad over one thing. He even said the line was hot. shyt was wack for real. Cam had a stage maybe after come home with me where some of his raps started sounding like some nursery rhymes.
Those are quotables that are still being brought up 15 years later. Those "nursery rhymes" Cam was dropping from 03-06 is only gonna register with certain nikkas

It's not gonna register with the Mood Muzik and Saigon crowd. Or nikkas that Stan Obie Trice because he's under Em..
I'm not saying you fall under that.
 

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Game is someone who people find it difficult to separate the man from the music. Can't even blame them. But imo he's an undeniably skilled rapper. Outside of doc 2 i can't say he dropped a project below 3 mics. I could be tempted to give him 2 classics personally.
Game is the reason I had to learn to do that lol. I was riding with 50 until One Blood dropped then I was like "if the music is hot, I dont care about the fukk shyt they do :whoa: lol"
 

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He said it was based on all that stuff. they explained it
And he flip flops, espeically when he wants to play the contrarian role vs. akademiks.

One day it's "such and such is a better lyricist than such and such so he's a better rapper" then he switches and says "such and such is a better rapper because he has a bigger impact".
 

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And he flip flops, espeically when he wants to play the contrarian role vs. akademiks.

One day it's "such and such is a better lyricist than such and such so he's a better rapper" then he switches and says "such and such is a better rapper because he has a bigger impact".
Nah he says greatest versus best are two different things. He put Drake over thought because his impact is insane.
 

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Yo,
Some of you really hate Joe:dead:. I didn't agree with everything Joe was saying but his arguments were reasonable. I definitely don't agree that Drake is a top 20 MC, but I understand his agreement.
Also this is really subjective. I doubt any of us would have the same top 20 MCs. Personally Lupe is in my top 20 but I know a lot of people would disagree with me.
 

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I stopped listening when joe budden started talking about "computers putin"... if youre a true cam fan then u know that basing that one line on his ability as a lyricist is stupid as fukk

the same dude who got co-signed by biggie as the best nikka out of harlem and the same dude who was going bar for bar with big l yet his whole lyrical ability is based on a couple one liners he had, fukking casuals:camby:

and cam>>>>>>>>>game

cam made the waves, game just rode them:umad:
purple haze, CHWM, DI>>>any game album:umad:

He actually echoed the same sentiments as you but i get it...its cooler to just shyt on budden.

nikkas really gotta stop listening to react and get back to listening to comprehend first
 

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Which episode?

Were they sleeping on cam?

He's in my top 5 favorite and easily top 20 all time being objective

Budden was half sleep in the beginning but moved him up his list after they started running down all his influences and achievements. Ak had him a lot higher and admitted he was a Stan back in the day just like the rest of us.

It's in the latest episode:

 
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He actually echoed the same sentiments as you but i get it...its cooler to just shyt on budden.

nikkas really gotta stop listening to react and get back to listening to comprehend first
if anything he used that line against him AND to big him up, playing both sides.. which makes absolutely no sense:what:

so cam isn't better than this rapper or top 20 because he said "computers putin".. but at the same time he's a great rapper because he said "computers putin"

what the fukk is there to comprehend about that contradiction?
 
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