Ken Piffey Jr.
Pro
I’m not a dirt off my shoulder fan (that sound that cuts in part way the song is nails on chalkboard) but this thread is a stretch...
Every Timbaland beat he ever gave Jay-Z has been garbage :
- Thread starter BlackDiBiase
- Start date
- hola hovito
- dirt off your shoulder
- is that your chick
- big pimpin
- hey papi
- suit and tie
- what they gonna do
Hola hovito underrated as fukk
HollywoodP
#LongLive24 #TMC, Lakeshow, ASU, Fukk Jerry Jones
Agreed. That beat was naaaaasty
Knicksman20
Superstar
@BlackDiBiase you wildin' lol
Read this whole thread & how the hell did no one mention this which is a top 3-5 Timbo beat ever & probably their best collab? Even Pharrell on Drinks Champs went nuts about it:
Read this whole thread & how the hell did no one mention this which is a top 3-5 Timbo beat ever & probably their best collab? Even Pharrell on Drinks Champs went nuts about it:
spliz
SplizThaDon
I wouldnt say that at all. There is some beats he got from Timbo that if Nas picked the same beat it would be a problem tho, but that’s not just with Timbo tho. What I will say is You Won’t See Me Tonight is better than majority of the beats Timbo gave Jay. And You Owe Me is a fukkin banger contrary to revisionist opinion. But Jay got some fire from Timbo too. Big Pimpin is hardbody I remember when I first heard it before the album dropped. Immediately went crazy over that. nikka What nikka Who is hardbody. It’s Hot is also hardbody. Hola Hovito is pretty dope. Hey Papi is ridiculous as well. Don’t really fukk wit the rest too heavy tho. Is That Your Chick is fire but that is an official Memphis Bleek track at this point.
I don't even know how it got revised. I can't recall anyone saying this song was wack, weak or garbage when it dropped. It got play. That instrumental was even dope enough to get a couple of contestants on Showtime At The Apollo a W:
There was another contestant during the Monique era. It was a kid dancing to this too.
"Y'all better run to the post office and get a job, mother fukkers"
he wasted that beat.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
nas is offbrand mid convincability wise and in content direction on you owe me.
back then nas and ras kass on reel to reel on commercial sellout beats.
you can hear them mentally have issue for making that record during the record actually playing.
not sure why everyone tries to front on this.
On records more closer to the sweet spot of nas. Where the production direction is more akin to him personality wise. plus said content matches his personality.
or manner initially in the direction nas is culturally as an emcee in content.
nas is golden. On songs that are wrongly given offbrand culturally disparaging marks from The peanut gallery like, I can. Nas Is flawless. same with ras kass on records produced by jazze phe, it is what it is. As both nas and ras were two artist.
who developed their own original cultural pop branded songs with zebrahead to it ain't hard to tell to miami life to it is what it is. yet since goofies say i can is bad. Or do not know the emcee pillar. Let alone the emcees skillsets.. Songs like I can never get made again. When a song like I can. Put on the national bds and playlist of wgci Chicago radio. had a positive effect to the community and school kids like another version of stop the violence and I liked that record a lot. Plus its due diligence to education from books to crate digging break. plus the sesame street message that delves into what a nas commercial first pop mainstream recording is supposed to be. Whereas a record like you owe me and the original iww. Is too far and away out of the bpm pocket for nas's technical rubrick. Plus sonic landscape wise. It takes nas as a culture based draw. Away from his culture base into a pop disco base. Along wit a change in the prohibitive take dynamic to a first person dynamic from the jiggy era in rap as well. Which is sonically taboo for a culture based emcee making commercial rap like nas.
just like ras was out of his element and sonically you can hear him be unsure and lack convincability. On his original over the top pop forays with dre. Which were night and daY away from how coolio[largest pop artist at the time] was expertly employed in Miami life. Which was more a pop Construction of the sweet spot ras was introduced on his gold label recordings from debut to jack frost vinyl. To the second album commercial miscall on ghetto fabulous featuring mack ten with Dre. Where the white label to ras kass featured music of the business. Which is more Akin to ras's real commercial sweet spot. Made in regards to serving a public service announcement.
to all the fakkit sellout rappers like xzibit would say.
so, with nas reviews I know not to trust the commercial peanut gallery. As ever since iww. You get a wrong direction and collection of misguided reviews for rappers. With the wrong commercials pop direction sonically and locally. Then a false reward system gon awry failing to aid said artist from recreating high quality pop submission. More akin to the sweet spot of that artist locally and sonically.
art barr
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Question...I was only 13-14 back when All Eyez on Me and Life After Death dropped, so I didn’t think of things the same at the time...but back then was it apparent or obvious to many that the “Notorious Thugs” beat (as great a song as it is) was pretty much a rip of “No More Pain”?
I literally already mentioned it tho
DaveyDave
Superstar
It’s not
Someone knows more than I do but didn’t Timbo work under Devante in that era? I’ve never heard anyone say Tim ghost produced it or anything but the drums on Mo More Pain are very Timbaland-esque. Notorious Thugs has a similar type of bounce to it but that’s the kind of thing people expected Bone to rock over even tho if you listen to E1999 the drums are fairly orthodox, that bouncy style was popular in the late 90s and a lot of NY MCs used it to try a bouncy/double time flow that they hadn’t done before (most people called it southern for some reason). It took Nas 2 or 3 goes before he perfected it on Heaven.