Every Seat on this Jet is HOT! The NYJ 2024 Thread

How many wins do we get this season?

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Rick Speilman in my opinion didn't do a great job in Minnesota..

And Tannenbaum was Bill Parcels cap guy back in the day and all of sudden he transitioned to picking players..

It can be done thats what Howie Roseman came from in Philly. He was a a cap guy to now being one of the best GMs in football

We'll see :ehh:
 

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Woody throwin his hands in the air admitting he doesn't know what the hell he's doing

Good. Acceptance is the first step in many journeys. Since he doesn't seem interested in selling, he just needs to hire somebody and get out the way
 

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1. Move on from Aaron Rodgers. This one's easy. The Jets will have to designate Rodgers as a post-June 1 release, which would free up $9.5 million in cap savings in 2025, albeit at the expense of $35 million in dead money in 2026. Rodgers was owed $37.5 million in cash, all of which is unguaranteed. The Jets could technically wait until the day before the regular season to make this move, given that his base salary is only $2.5 million and wouldn't be difficult to carry throughout the spring and summer, but it's time for the organization to be decisive.​

2. Also move on from as many of the Rodgers trappings as possible. It's time for a reset. All the stuff the Jets brought in to support Rodgers has to go. Backup quarterback Tim Boyle and receiver Randall Cobb didn't return for 2024, but there's no reason to keep Rodgers' support staff around for another year. Wideout Allen Lazard's $11 million base salary for 2025 is unguaranteed and not justified by his production. Nathaniel Hackett already has been deposed as offensive playcaller and doesn't have the sort of résumé that justifies his return.
And yes, that also includes Davante Adams. I know the Jets sent a third-round pick to the Raiders to acquire Adams, but without the Rodgers connection, there's no strong case for bringing him back. Adams turns 32 on Christmas Eve, and his production has declined by 25% between the 2022 season with the Raiders and his work in 2023 and 2024 with Vegas and New York. Drops and mental mistakes, such as going out of bounds late in the game against the Dolphins on Sunday to open up an opportunity for Miami to launch a last-second comeback, aren't helping matters.
Adams is still a good player, but his contract is about to pay the three-time All-Pro like he's prime Justin Jefferson. His base salary spikes to $35.6 million in 2025 and 2026, a contract mechanism that was designed to both report an inflated figure when it was signed and trigger a renegotiation when it arrived. The hope naturally was that he would be playing well enough to earn another significant extension, but he wouldn't get that sort of deal on the open market.

There's just no realistic way Adams will be back with the Jets on that figure in 2025. They could try to negotiate a pay cut, but given the expected departure of Rodgers and the uncertainty about the team's chances of competing, Adams might prefer to go somewhere else. I can't imagine any other team paying him north of $35 million per season, so even a trade would have to come with a pay cut, which means he would essentially have to approve any deal.
In what looks like a deep market for veteran wide receivers, Adams' age and declining production might limit his suitors. My guess is he will likely land something more like $12 million per season on a short-term deal. If the Jets can get him to take a pay cut into that range, they should bring him back. If not, they need to treat the trade for him as part of the Rodgers sunk cost and move on.
3. Pursue a coach with experience who can rebuild the team's culture. Organizations usually replace the coach they fired with someone who represents the polar opposite of that coach stylistically. The Jets fired defensive-minded coach Todd Bowles in 2018 and replaced him with an offense-first (in theory) option in Adam Gase. When Gase failed, the Jets fired him in 2021 and turned to Robert Saleh, another option whose roots are on defense.
Given that habit and the questions about what they'll do at quarterback after moving on from Rodgers, I wouldn't be shocked if the Jets hired a coach with an offensive background. Are there really great options available on that front? I'm not so sure. On the coordinator side, Bobby Slowik has had a rough year in Houston. Arthur Smith didn't wow during his time in Atlanta as a head coach. Kellen Moore was once thought of as a head-coach-in-waiting, but he has been with three organizations in three years and might not be ready to take over. There's a big drop-off from Detroit OC Ben Johnson to the other candidates, and precious few have the experience of building a culture and handling major media markets. Matt Nagy is one of the few coordinators with head-coaching experience, but the Jets probably don't want to go down that road.
And likewise, at the college level, there isn't the ready-made option Jim Harbaugh was for the Chargers a year ago. Lincoln Riley has struggled since joining USC. Steve Sarkisian might be settled at Texas. Dan Lanning isn't leaving Oregon. Ryan Day could become available if Ohio State fires him, but that's a slim group of potential coaches.
The logical fit might be the guy rumored to be in the running to replace Day if the Buckeyes let their coach go. Mike Vrabel went 54-45 in six years with the Titans, which gives him a leg up on just about every other Jets coach in history; the only one to be in the job for more than a year who finished his tenure with a winning record was Bill Parcells. Vrabel was regarded as an elite coach at his best, although the bottom fell out after his final two seasons in Nashville. He spent most of his playing career dealing with the media in Boston and has the credibility and charisma to handle the pressures of both reporters and fans in New York.
Frankly, looking around the market, there aren't many options with more impressive résumés available. Vrabel wouldn't be the offensive coach Jets fans might hope to see walk through the doors in Florham Park, but he would be a more experienced option than former Jets cornerback (and current Lions defensive coordinator) Aaron Glenn, another top choice for the role.
 

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4. Get in the Sam Darnold negotiations. Hey, it would save some of the fans money on jersey sales, right? Darnold's first run with the Jets ended poorly, although his success with the Vikings clearly affirms the portion of the fan base that believed Darnold's failure was down to his surroundings. Given that he finished his tenure with the Jets with Gase as his coach and Jamison Crowder, Breshad Perriman and Denzel Mims as his top wide receivers, there's a case to be made that it was going to be difficult for any quarterback to succeed.
The Jets might not be able to bring back Darnold, whose contract with the Vikings expires after this season, but they can offer a clear path to a starting role and two elite playmakers in Garrett Wilson and Breece Hall. Olu Fashanu has been inconsistent in his rookie season, but he'll get a full year at left tackle in 2025, and the Jets have invested heavily up front. We'll have to see who ends up as the offensive coordinator, but there's enough to like in New York relative to other potential openings around the league.
The Vikings might franchise-tag Darnold to try to facilitate a deal, which could make things more difficult for the Jets, given they might not want to give up a second-round pick when their third-rounder went to the Raiders in the Adams deal. (They do have another third-rounder, although it's coming from the Lions and about to fall at the bottom of the round.) Then again, if the organization believes Darnold can be the guy in his second go-round, a second-round pick wouldn't be a ridiculous price to pay. With a top-10 pick in a draft that isn't projected to have a great quarterback class, New York could make a move for Darnold and reevaluate its situation after 2025.
5. Sign (some of) their young stars to extensions. It hasn't been a great year for former general manager Joe Douglas' much-vaunted class of 2022. Cornerback Sauce Gardner has struggled with his tackling and allowed a passer rating north of 100. Wilson's numbers haven't grown with Rodgers taking over for Zach Wilson. Edge rusher Jermaine Johnson tore an Achilles in Week 2, and Hall had just one 100-yard game in three months before suffering a knee injury that might keep him out the rest of the way.
Even with those issues, the performances of those guys in 2021 and 2022 and the need to develop some sort of young core means that whomever the Jets hire as GM needs to start working on new deals. I'd hold off on Johnson, given the investment required to lock up a young pass rusher and his injury, but the team can start negotiating with the other three after this season. Hall is a free agent in 2026, while the others would hit the market a year later.
Hall's blueprint will be the three-year, $42 million deal Jonathan Taylor signed with the Colts last year. Hall doesn't have Taylor's résumé, but both the salary cap and the market for running backs have gone up since Taylor inked his extension. A deal in this range makes sense for both parties, especially because Hall was a second-round pick and has made only a little over $7 million in the first three seasons.
 

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Wilson's deal might be tougher, given that the wide receiver market has exploded. He doesn't have the Justin Jefferson- or CeeDee Lamb-level production that would justify a market-shifting contract, although his representation could point to quarterback play as the factor holding him back. I'd look toward the deals signed by DeVonta Smith (three years, $75 million) and Jaylen Waddle (three years, $84.5 million) as more reasonable comparisons; given the rise in the cap, three years and $90 million for Wilson would lock in a significant raise and still give him a chance to hit free agency again in his prime.
Gardner might be the trickiest of the three, if only because his play has been so disappointing this season. D.J. Reed has also struggled across from Gardner, especially after Saleh's departure. We've seen teams pay premiums to add significant talents at cornerback in previous years, with the Rams sending two first-rounders to the Jaguars in 2019 for Jalen Ramsey in the fourth year of his rookie deal. Would the Jets be willing to test Gardner's market to see if they can land the sort of haul that would allow them to rebuild the rest of the roster? They should consider it if Gardner is asking to top Pat Surtain's four-year, $96 million extension. It might behoove both sides to wait a year to see how Gardner performs under a new coach.
 
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