ESPN ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th best player in the NBA

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:yeshrug: this is what happens when we legitimatize the opinions of people woo never played the game
journalists who supposed to be bball experts but the 1st thing outta their mouth is some PER36, ORTG.

this is what yall deserve
As much as I enjoy and respect analytics, I gotta agree with you. That level of disrespect can only come from over analyzing.
 

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Oh?....please correct me sir :hubie:

With pleasure. You contend that a 2.1 player per team average equates to there being at least that many players better than Melo on each NBA roster. That makes no sense whatsoever because using an average value to collate your top 63 player list with the same number of players from each roster necesitates an even talent distribution on all of the teams.

Of course there are outlier franchises that will have 3 or even 4 top 63 players and those who have less. So what, we can only choose two Warriors and two Cavs? Somehow we need to shoehorn two Nets on your list?

Average is literally the worst statistic to use, actually. It's very basic applied math.
 

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With pleasure. You contend that a 2.1 player per team average equates to there being at least that many players better than Melo on each NBA roster. That makes no sense whatsoever because using an average value to collate your top 63 player list with the same number of players from each roster necesitates an even talent distribution on all of the teams.

Of course there are outlier franchises that will have 3 or even 4 top 63 players and those who have less. So what, we can only choose two Warriors and two Cavs? Somehow we need to shoehorn two Nets on your list?

Average is literally the worst statistic to use, actually. It's very basic applied math.

You're correct (and I suspect someone also with a background in applied math :obama:)

Perhaps stating that I was viewing it through a very simple standpoint of "basically they're saying..." would've put my point across better.

Another poster posed a similar point you make to which I responded:

Personally I would say 4, but let's go with your 6, that just further validates the knowledge that talent is stacked in the league right now and not dispersed.

All the good players on GS, CLE, WAS, BOS, SAS, HOUS and all other playoff teams last season ain't adding up to 60 so it backs my point that there are not at least 2 players on every team better than Melo.

He shouldn't be that low.

I agree, we can't truly assess it using average - unless we start talking about weighted averages taking into account your point about talent dispersion....but that's going down a whole other street on analytics and I know how the Coli feels about analytics :patrice:

But bottom line, don't take no analysis to determine Carmelo is better than 64!

Would like to get my eyes on the algorithm they used for this (I posted the method they used a few days ago).

:salute:to the way you think tho breh.
 

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Melo only has himself to blame. He better force a move to Houston & try to salvage what's left of his career.
 

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How many rings Bron winning with Melo teams over the last 7 years?:mjgrin:

I asked u over 4 hours ago And all u did was (julez gif) me

How many rings Bron bringing to NY breh?:lupe:


The 09 and 2010 Nuggets might have won a championship with LeBron instead of melo.

They wouldn't lose in the first round against the Utah Jazz
 

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You're correct (and I suspect someone also with a background in applied math :obama:)

Perhaps stating that I was viewing it through a very simple standpoint of "basically they're saying..." would've put my point across better.

Another poster posed a similar point you make to which I responded:



I agree, we can't truly assess it using average - unless we start talking about weighted averages taking into account your point about talent dispersion....but that's going down a whole other street on analytics and I know how the Coli feels about analytics :patrice:

But bottom line, don't take no analysis to determine Carmelo is better than 64!

Would like to get my eyes on the algorithm they used for this (I posted the method they used a few days ago).

:salute:to the way you think tho breh.

Preciate that breh and for the thought-provoking response.

:obama:
 
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