ERROL SPENCE says "I DON'T NEED A PROMOTER"..OSCAR says "THAT'S WHY YOUR NOT A SUPERSTAR like CANELO

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:mjgrin: Talk your sh1t Mr. Spence aka FREE AGENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Spence Not Interested In Signing With Arum, De La Hoya or Hearn

By Keith Idec

You can’t blame Bob Arum, Oscar De La Hoya and Eddie Hearn for wanting to spend some of their vast resources on signing Errol Spence Jr. to a promotional contract.

The likeable, skillful welterweight is an emerging star who’s in his physical prime and knocks out opponents. Spence appreciates their interest, but the undefeated IBF 147-pound champion simply isn’t interested in making a contractual commitment to a promoter.

The 28-year-old Spence (24-0, 21 KOs), who’s advised by Al Haymon, works with promoters Tom Brown and Lou DiBella on a bout-by-bout basis.

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Brown and DiBella are among the promoters that market shows featuring fighters affiliated with Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions organization. Brown’s TGB Promotions put together the card headlined by Spence’s first-round knockout of overmatched mandatory challenger Carlos Ocampo (22-1, 13 KOs) on Saturday night in Frisco, Texas.

Beyond that, though, Spence told a small group of reporters Tuesday at a Manhattan restaurant that he won’t sign with a promoter. The powerful southpaw from DeSoto, Texas, is satisfied with how he is being both marketed and compensated.

“I feel like basically Showtime is my promoter right now,” said Spence, whose past three fights have been broadcast by Showtime. “They’re promoting me. They’re promoting me, so I feel like if I don’t have to [sign with a promoter], why do it? I mean, I’m fighting on TV, I’m getting the main slots and basically doing what I wanna do, basically without have somebody basically telling me who I’m fighting or where I’m fighting at, things like that.

“Basically, my manager comes to me and says, ‘Do you wanna fight here?’ Or, ‘Do you wanna fight this opponent?’ And I have say-so in it. Everything’s been going good now. I’m getting publicized. I’ve been fighting on TV. My name’s been out there. Why change something? Everything’s going good. Everything’s running smoothly and I don’t believe I need to change anything or I need to add anybody to my team right now. … What could I possibly need a promoter for me to do that I’m not already getting done with the team I have now?”

“Golden Boy was pursuing me. Top Rank was pursuing me. But they get that from my interviews. I tell them I don’t need a promoter, I’m not looking for a promoter. You know, we’re setting a new trend where you can do stuff without a promoter. And just the fact that everybody feels like you need a promoter to be this top guy, you really don’t.”


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Oscar De La Hoya thinks Spence is just outright wrong.

“I have have response to him and to tell him that he’s wrong,” said De La Hoya, on Wednesday afternoon to Boxing Scene.

“I strongly believe that a fighter needs a promoter to guide your career. You can have a manager, you can have an adviser. He thinks Showtime is promoting him and that’s not the case.

“You need a promoter to move you along and eventually become a pay-per-view fighter, which he will never be without a promoter.”


De La Hoya would claim that even though he had a world wide platform following his 1992 Olympic performance, he still needed Bob Arum.

“Exactly and look, my case was totally different because I already had that world-wide platform when I won the gold medal. So it was easier to promote me,” said De La Hoya.

“But you’re right, if I didn’t have Arum to guide my career, who knows where I would be. Who knows where I would be if I had a manager/adviser guiding my career.”

De La Hoya continued, “See, a promoter promotes you. A promoter has a plan, a long-term plan to eventually make you a pay-per-view star and look, there’s a reason why there’s one superstar in boxing – and that’s (Saul) ‘Canelo’ Alvarez. There’s a reason why there’s only one fighter in boxing that sells pay-per-view – and that’s ‘Canelo’ Alvarez.

http://www.fightsports.tv/de-la-hoya-blasts-spences-feelings-on-promoters/
 

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When you're courting a woman, and trying to get the p*ssy, do you force her into bed with petty insults? Or do you stroke her ego by playing her game? Oscar doesn't fukk women, so he may not understand the analogy. He's coming off as a dude who just knew he was going to get the p*ssy, but ended up getting curved.
 

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I get the feeling Al Haymon teaching guys like Errol Spence and Floyd before him how to do their own thing is equivalent to a lot of these new rappers doing their own thing without signing to a major label dinosaur. The Arums and De La Hoyas see this and don't like it much the same way they saw what Haymon was doing and didn't like it, even though later on they followed suit.

There will always be promoters considering a lot of fighters come from backgrounds where the money looks too good to say no, and it's probably comforting to hear someone speak that sounds like they know what they're talking about with the history to back them. Still though, it's nice to see individual moving independent and standing on their own two.
 

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I get the feeling Al Haymon teaching guys like Errol Spence and Floyd before him how to do their own thing is equivalent to a lot of these new rappers doing their own thing without signing to a major label dinosaur. The Arums and De La Hoyas see this and don't like it much the same way they saw what Haymon was doing and didn't like it, even though later on they followed suit.

There will always be promoters considering a lot of fighters come from backgrounds where the money looks too good to say no, and it's probably comforting to hear someone speak that sounds like they know what they're talking about with the history to back them. Still though, it's nice to see individual moving independent and standing on their own two.

:umad: BINGO!!!..... The music industry is a perfect analogy...

alot of these PROMOTERS want to "enslave" these boxers to these longterm exclusive deals which do more harm to the fighter than help

and here is where AL is changing that dynamic


AL is about EMPOWERMENT...unlike these "promoters" whom see Boxing as thier "food"..Al had money prior towards entering the boxing field...

so the first thing he did with boxers like Mayweather whom he helped "free" himself of that draconian contract that Arum held him to ..was to get Mayweather to create his OWN PROMOTIONAL COMPANY..

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And the rest have followed suit as well.....The CHARLO twins have LIONS ONLY PROMOTIONS

and AB has his as well.....i think Robert Easter has one as well too..

they act as INDPENDENT CONTRACTORS whom only work with promoters on a FIGHT BY FIGHT basis

this is something HOYA and ARUM don't like...cause it challenges the STATUS QUO...

and explains the HATRED..."they" have for Haymon

its pathetic...he is doing such great things for boxers and the business of boxing as well..yet they despise him

one boxing commisioner actually wanted him INCARCERATED..... smh
 

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When you're courting a woman, and trying to get the p*ssy, do you force her into bed with petty insults? Or do you stroke her ego by playing her game? Oscar doesn't fukk women, so he may not understand the analogy. He's coming off as a dude who just knew he was going to get the p*ssy, but ended up getting curved.


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The problem with comparing Spence to TMT is that Floyd has a mouth piece and was the most charasmatic athlete of the last two decades. He built his brand off of that.

There is no way Spence should only have 300 K IG followers. An avg UFC champ will have at least double or triple the following.

The networks have to do a better job of promoting and building fights (ufc style promo), Showtime isn’t enough though.

That’s the one drawback with boxing being so separated with too many hands in the pot..
 

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When you're courting a woman, and trying to get the p*ssy, do you force her into bed with petty insults? Or do you stroke her ego by playing her game? Oscar doesn't fukk women, so he may not understand the analogy. He's coming off as a dude who just knew he was going to get the p*ssy, but ended up getting curved.

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The problem with comparing Spence to TMT is that Floyd has a mouth piece and was the most charasmatic athlete of the last two decades. He built his brand off of that.

There is no way Spence should only have 300 K IG followers. An avg UFC champ will have at least double or triple the following.

The networks have to do a better job of promoting and building fights (ufc style promo), Showtime isn’t enough though.

That’s the one drawback with boxing being so separated with too many hands in the pot..
Exactly Spence has zero personality. He needs a promoter
 

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When you're courting a woman, and trying to get the p*ssy, do you force her into bed with petty insults? Or do you stroke her ego by playing her game? Oscar doesn't fukk women, so he may not understand the analogy. He's coming off as a dude who just knew he was going to get the p*ssy, but ended up getting curved.
:wow:
 

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Isn’t Harmon essentially their promoter? Seems like he uses dibella and the other guy as a proxy for legal reasons. They even created pbc which is essentially a promotional outfit. Seems like semantics to me

People say this fight by fight free agent thing is good while ignoring the obvious risk of that in a sport like boxing where any one fight can change the course of ur career. Remember kid chocolate? Harmon fighter who,got ktfo and ain’t been on a major card since. I’m sure a multiple fight guarantee would have been lovely to him right now
 
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