Ernie Messing Up Another Summer: Official Washington Wizards 2017 Offseason Thread
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Wall won't be on a max next season
And I feel we can 1+1 Boogie.
The bench problems are down to Grunfeld's drafting.
Heavy_Handz
Superstar
Normally, I'd think giving up firsts every years would be a terrible idea, but if you're going to finish near the top of your conference every year, lower first rounders really don't net you much NBA caliber starters anymore. With that said, if the Wiz can turn another first rounder into Cousins, you don't think twice. Won't happen, but it's great to dream
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
You prolly right but that's the only way Wall stays.
Normally, I'd think giving up firsts every years would be a terrible idea, but if you're going to finish near the top of your conference every year, lower first rounders really don't net you much NBA caliber starters anymore. With that said, if the Wiz can turn another first rounder into Cousins, you don't think twice. Won't happen, but it's great to dream
Yes. You have to trade a first for Demarcus. That's fine. Gortat expires in 2019. Mahinmi expires in 2020.
We'd have to hope Cousins signs a 1+1 with NOLA next summer. If he's available at the 2018 deadline, then we can pounce then.
The problem with trading 1st rounders is that it's a cheap 4 year investment in a kid you can bring off the bench and develop at a decent pace. It's an asset. Grunfail continually mismanages them and is lazy with regards to the draft. You have the Warriors and Spurs always drafting kids and they are winning 60 games. They realize the value of a cheap contract producing well.
Trading it for Bogdanovic and then claiming McCullogh is your pick this year is stupid as shid esp when that kid has been injured and the Nets gave up on him in his 2nd year.
VladTheImpaler
The Sensational Prince
Heavy_Handz
Superstar
Can't imagine Wall passing up 42 million a year.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Heavy_Handz
Superstar
Where's he gonna go? What teams with title aspirations are desperate for PG help? its as if he's sort of stuck. If he doesn't take this deal there's no guarantee out on the open market he'd jump to any team more ready than the Wiz are to compete.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
He gonna go where Boogie goes.
Heavy_Handz
Superstar
If that was the case, why wouldn't Boogie just come to the Wiz when his deal is up? Where else would they go together that would make a legit championship squad? Pass on 42 mill a year to try and maybe link with Cousins? Doubt it.
His deal is up next summer when he opts out.
Wiz have no cap space in 2018.
We have the most incompetent GM in the NBA.
Look at the draft history
2011 R1 pick (#6) -- player out of the league in 2 years
2011 R1 pick (#18) -- player out of the league in 2 years
2011 high R2 pick -- player waived
2012 R1 pick -- Brad Beal
2012 high R2 pick -- pick Tomas Satoransky who stays 4 years in Europe then is below average (meanwhile, Draymond Green, Jae Crowder, Khris Middleton, Will Barton all went elsewhere)
2012 R2 pick (#49) -- thrown in as part of Okariza trade (meanwhile Kyle O'Quinn becomes very solid rotation NBA Center)
2013 R1 pick -- Otto Porter
2013 high R2 pick -- player out of league in 2 years
2014 R1 pick -- traded for 1-year player rental (Gortat, who re-signed for 5 years $60M)
2014 R2 pick -- sold for cash
2015 R 1 pick -- Kelly Oubre
2015 R2 pick -- given away in trade for player with team for 1 year (Miller: this is from memory)
2016 R1 pick -- traded for below average-average PF (Markeef Morris)
2016 R2 pick -- traded to move up in 2015 R1 to get Oubre
2017 R1 pick -- traded for zip (dumping Nicholson contract, getting a 30 game rental in Bogdanovic, and a bust in McCullogh)
2017 R2 pick -- traded for Tim Frazier