Employee asks HR why new employees are getting paid more, gets ridiculous response

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Not reading any of it?


Why would you even ask?
Instead of using the information to get a huge raise?

People think in such loser ways.

 

[King]

Yep especially when the economy is crappy. They have to pay more to get people to take or even seek the job. It's why a lot of employers don't want their employees to discuss pay with each other.

That’s a fukking lie. They pay more to the incredibly small pool of candidates they actually give offers to.

Each job posting gets hundreds, if not thousands of applicants. Only problem is companies don’t give a fukk about the 99% of people who apply. The same way they don’t actually give a fukk about training. They want exceptional ready-made candidates when that nepotism bag runs out.

When the economy is “crappy” people apply to jobs.

 

[NobodyReally]

It's called salary compression and it's always been there.

Pay compression (also referred to as wage compression or salary compression) is when employees who have been in a job for a long time makes less than new hires in the same position. With pay compression, there are small differences in pay that ignore experience, skills, level, or seniority. You see pay compression happen when starting salaries for new employees in a particular job title are set too close to the wages of your existing workers. In really awful circumstances, the starting salaries exceed what your current employees are earning, even if your tenured employees have more skills and experience.

 

[Buddy]

I've always been scared to do this the company I'm at now took a year to find. Who are ya'll putting for references if you're known to bounce?

That's why job hopping gets you more money... fukk em

You have to job hop a lot it is also a fact of life. If you have a new person they often will be getting paid more than you

That was a whole lot of nothing.

either way , dont be loyal to companies and jump ship every 2-3 years for actual salary increase.

This is the 4th company I’ve worked for in 8 years and I’ve nearly tripled my income.

If you want to make more change jobs every 4 years. Sometimes even less

 

[Charlie Hustle]

been there for years? 18 months is years now?

Thats why they're not getting a raise

 

[analog]

I've always been scared to do this the company I'm at now took a year to find. Who are ya'll putting for references if you're known to bounce?

Friends and family, or colleagues I'm on good terms with.

If you're honest in this game, you'll be handed nothing but L's.

Confidence and good social skills will take you a long way. Goodluck.

 

[Buddy]

Friends and family, or colleagues I'm on good terms with.

If you're honest in this game, you'll be handed nothing but L's.

Confidence and good social skills will take you a long way. Goodluck.

Does that mean you're listing them as coworkers?

 

[Big Boss]

It's called salary compression and it's always been there.

Pay compression (also referred to as wage compression or salary compression) is when employees who have been in a job for a long time makes less than new hires in the same position. With pay compression, there are small differences in pay that ignore experience, skills, level, or seniority. You see pay compression happen when starting salaries for new employees in a particular job title are set too close to the wages of your existing workers. In really awful circumstances, the starting salaries exceed what your current employees are earning, even if your tenured employees have more skills and experience.

Facts

 

[analog]

Does that mean you're listing them as coworkers?

list them as whatever you need them to be

 

[Worthless Loser]

I work in HR and have regular contact with HR Compensation. That is accurate. Some people who don't work in HR or understand Compensation may not understand. Because you're looking at it from a completely different perspective as an employee or candidate.

 

[Arizax2]

My wife job hops almost every year. She moves on to the next job and get7-10k more each time she does it. I'm pretty impressed honestly. Right now she loves her job but is looking for one more big move if it comes about. If not she is happy where she is at and her salary is damn good. Her job is doing a market adjustment in two weeks. Based on what that number is she may or may not keep looking.

My job is in the middle of figuring out a adjustment as well. For the time being they cut our yearly stock bonuses in half and added half of it to our salaries. Now they are figuring out if they will give us more $ on top of it. I'll be wrapped up with my masters degree in 5 months so either way im asking for an education adjustment which I'm sure I'll get since they are big with degrees and encourages it any chance they can. I've been around for 15 years so not really looking to leave especially since I know I'm due for a promotion in the near future. But I can't knock people that job hop because $ talks.

 

[maxamusa]

I work in HR and have regular contact with HR Compensation. That is accurate. Some people who don't work in HR or understand Compensation may not understand. Because you're looking at it from a completely different perspective as an employee or candidate.

Care to educate?

 

[Dameon Farrow]

That’s a fukking lie. They pay more to the incredibly small pool of candidates they actually give offers to.

Each job posting gets hundreds, if not thousands of applicants. Only problem is companies don’t give a fukk about the 99% of people who apply. The same way they don’t actually give a fukk about training. They want exceptional ready-made candidates when that nepotism bag runs out.

When the economy is “crappy” people apply to jobs.

So the economy never plays a role in what employees pay prospects?

 

[Buckeye Fever]

I havent been at my job a full 3 yrs and I already make 10k more a yr in the same position, than when I started.

I guess they know turnover is high out here abd they tryna keep ppl from leaving.

I definitely agree with the "switch jobs every few years" crew. fukk bein' a "team player". We ain't millionaire athletes who can afford to take paycuts or stay at basically the same wage for years as the price of everything goes up

 

[Arizax2]

Care to educate?

I'm sure that person will speak on it but what I can tell you at my job, every Director is given a certain amount of $ to distribute to the management folks. If I get a high raise then that means it was taken from someone else. I'm positive I'm getting the most raise percentage for any of my coworkers so I know they take a hit on it. Once I knew this I never bytched about my raises again. It's kinda fukked up especially if you have a great core of workers under one Director but that's how they keep the balance and favoritism low.

For my job I work closely with HR and directly with the person that approves people raises. Believe me when I tell you this HR person is on the same boat and sees who is underpaid and overpaid and this person feels some type of way about it because she is comparing her salary with everyone else. She is currently looking to get into another function because she knows where the real money is at and can properly negotiate what she wants because she knows how the pay scale is structured and what can and can not get approved. It's a secret in what the ranges are but she knows it because it's literally part of her HR job. She's the one that told me I can get an education adjustment and the process of it. Most people don't know and don't ask for it but I know now.