EMINEM - MUSIC TO BE MURDERED BY SIDE B (DISCUSSION THREAD)

[SunZoo]

Yup, Eninem Show was the best balance of Eminem the MC we ever got imo

Slim Shady LP was zany and over the top based on a character

Marshal Mathers LP was Personal about him as a person but also bordered on horror core with tracks about vividly killing his wife and carrying out school shootings

Eminem Show was Eminem the RAPPER, dope lyrics over mostly dope beats

always bugged me that he didn’t call it The Eminem LP

If you've seen it/heard of it, The Eminem Show is a play on The Truman Show....that was him being self aware enough to understand what he had really gotten himself into career wise and wanting to walk away from it, there are parallels wtihout getting too deep into the film.

He went from rapping about being burnt out, wanting to retire and spend time mending his broken family to giving an "encore" that he clearly didn't want to do. Look at the cover art...look at how he opens up the album reiterating everything he just said on TES, admitting that he sold his soul and wants the shyt to be over.

Not a good album but damn sure an interesting one.

Stop with this revisionist shyt. Those songs are still average AF

Evil Deeds might be a top 10 Em song for me honestly, I def like the good/average joints from Encore than most of his albums post Relapse

 

[Hyperion]

he was on the right track w/ TES and 8 Mile shyt


he just needs to be inspired.

I agree, which is why that's my favourite Em era to revisit. It's funny though because I went back on some forums and people actually felt he fell off or sold out with TES. And I was listening to the album again (and SSLP) last night, and while I obviously disagree with that entirely, I can see why some people might say that. When your last LP had shyt like "Kim", "Kill You" and "Amityville" on it and then your next shyt has "Say Goodbye to Hollywood", "Sing For The Moment" and "Hailie's Song", it's a huge tone shift. But the tone shift is all because the mentality he had during the MMLP era (and to an extent, the SSLP era) was coming back to bite him.

Recovery could've been a spiritual successor to TES if he retained the Relapse/Relapse 2 style and delivery. Might not be on the same level, but I like to think it'd be close.

 

[SunZoo]

Recovery could've been a spiritual successor to TES if he retained the Relapse/Relapse 2 style and delivery. Might not be on the same level, but I like to think it'd be close.

That's exactly what Revival should have been. Relapse style with different content...they even had the dope ass pharmaceutical promo material just like the pills and Relapse. I saw that like ohhhhhhhh they got the right idea!

Should have called that shyt Recycle Bin, jesus.

 

[Izanami]

It’s crazy how much Lil Wayne influenced Eminem the past decade. Hearing Em speak on Wayne it makes sense. But it made for the worst unfortunately.

 

[Hyperion]

That's exactly what Revival should have been. Relapse style with different content...they even had the dope ass pharmaceutical promo material just like the pills and Relapse. I saw that like ohhhhhhhh they got the right idea!

Should have called that shyt Recycle Bin, jesus.

That's what everyone thought it was going to be, and to this day, I'm still confused with the messaging behind the album. What does the album title mean, in terms of his career or the concept? Cause Revival absolutely could've been Relapse 2 without the expectations from the world on what a Relapse 2 in 2017 would be.

As much as Em "hates" Relapse, he's gotta be confused as fukk when he sees fans wanting a sequel to it, considering how it was received at the time. Songs like "Stay Wide Awake" isn't that much different from stuff off MMLP besides the accents. "We Made You" is the typical "Corny/Goofy Eminem lead-single" song, and while it does sound a bit forced with a heavy accent, it's still true to the previous formula he'd always gone with. "Deja Vu" is one of his best written songs to date, and people loving "Beautiful" so much is probably part of how we ended up with Recovery. In terms of his career and relevance... Recovery was the right choice. Plus I think it was the best for him as well mentally. But it's definitely strange how he hadn't gone back to the Relapse formula for a long time.

Kamikaze was the first time we had a Paul skit in years. MTBMB Side A and Side B are definitely closer to that older formula though.

 

[SunZoo]

That's what everyone thought it was going to be, and to this day, I'm still confused with the messaging behind the album. What does the album title mean, in terms of his career or the concept? Cause Revival absolutely could've been Relapse 2 without the expectations from the world on what a Relapse 2 in 2017 would be.

As much as Em "hates" Relapse, he's gotta be confused as fukk when he sees fans wanting a sequel to it, considering how it was received at the time. Songs like "Stay Wide Awake" isn't that much different from stuff off MMLP besides the accents. "We Made You" is the typical "Corny/Goofy Eminem lead-single" song, and while it does sound a bit forced with a heavy accent, it's still true to the previous formula he'd always gone with. "Deja Vu" is one of his best written songs to date, and people loving "Beautiful" so much is probably part of how we ended up with Recovery. In terms of his career and relevance... Recovery was the right choice. Plus I think it was the best for him as well mentally. But it's definitely strange how he hadn't gone back to the Relapse formula for a long time.

Kamikaze was the first time we had a Paul skit in years. MTBMB Side A and Side B are definitely closer to that older formula though.

I don't think he's that confused, I just think Paul and the other suits smacked on the hand like...see what happens when we let you do the album you really wanna make? You ONLY go 2x plat.

He dissed Relapse then brought up how tight he was rapping on it on "The Reunion" lol, that pissed me the fukk off.

Then he drops shyt like Framed in the middle of revival...like you coulda just did a whole album (or better yet and EP) of just that. One of Em's biggest strengths is storytelling and it's something he rarely does anymore. He needs an excuse to jump in and out of characters/concepts.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

It's weird how Eminem's been screaming his entire career, but it doesn't bother me at all with his earlier work. "Kim" went over-the-top with it, but his shouting always felt like it had passion and genuine rage in it. But in his later work (after Relapse), it sounds forced. Like he's trying to be passionate, but it's obnoxious and irritating. The only time his screaming felt genuine in the last decade or so was on Kamikaze. I'm glad he realized how annoying it is and stopped doing it (although, maybe it was just to protect his voice).

 

[Tony D'Amato]

 

[Tony D'Amato]

It's weird how Eminem's been screaming his entire career, but it doesn't bother me at all with his earlier work. "Kim" went over-the-top with it, but his shouting always felt like it had passion and genuine rage in it. But in his later work (after Relapse), it sounds forced. Like he's trying to be passionate, but it's obnoxious and irritating. The only time his screaming felt genuine in the last decade or so was on Kamikaze. I'm glad he realized how annoying it is and stopped doing it (although, maybe it was just to protect his voice).

I Kno exactly what u mean. It sounded more natural when he was young

 

[WeInHere]

It's weird how Eminem's been screaming his entire career, but it doesn't bother me at all with his earlier work. "Kim" went over-the-top with it, but his shouting always felt like it had passion and genuine rage in it. But in his later work (after Relapse), it sounds forced. Like he's trying to be passionate, but it's obnoxious and irritating. The only time his screaming felt genuine in the last decade or so was on Kamikaze. I'm glad he realized how annoying it is and stopped doing it (although, maybe it was just to protect his voice).

We had reason to believe he was actually pissed back then. Dude doing the same shyt as a multi-millionaire does seem real anymore

 

[Mike the Executioner]

We had reason to believe he was actually pissed back then. Dude doing the same shyt as a multi-millionaire does seem real anymore

True. He said during his promo run for Revival that he still has the passion, but he doesn't have the rage anymore. Then when everybody shyt on Revival, that made him lose his mind and be like "You didn't like my album? Then fukk all of you. " Even now, I can listen to Kamikaze and be like because he wasn't forcing it. He really was that mad.

 

[WeInHere]

True. He said during his promo run for Revival that he still has the passion, but he doesn't have the rage anymore. Then when everybody shyt on Revival, that made him lose his mind and be like "You didn't like my album? Then fukk all of you. " Even now, I can listen to Kamikaze and be like because he wasn't forcing it. He really was that mad.

Hm interesting. I think that is probably my least liked album. Imma go back and listen with fresh ears now..

 

[Sccit]

STILL WAITING FOR MY CD COPY

 

[BK The Great]

 

[Tony D'Amato]

I knew it would be negativity with yo bish azz

They hated on Gnat... Fukk outta here