Eminem - MMLP2 Discussion Thread

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

anyone got a link for them bonus tracks yet?...my laptops to slow for me to check all the pages please, someone, send it to me

I'll send you a link as soon as I get one breh.

 

[Eoin]

Bonus tracks? Link?

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

I haven't heard this yet. About to listen a little later today but Some of you dudes should be ashamed of yourselves. Go out of your way to hate on this shyt lol. I would hate to see y'all complaining about meaningful things in life

 

[Randy Sandchild]

Bonus tracks are piff. Swap out a few of the albums songs and put them in their place and you got a good cd

 

[raidersreceiver]

lank and bonus tracks? please brehs

 

[Double J]

No l agree there's a lot of haters but I am not one of them since I was an eminem fan and no this album even after more listening is still a mediocre album. What's happenig is either a lot of people tries to cover the subpar beats by saying lyrics or flows are greats which it isn't the case, or they are so overflow by mediocrity these past 5 years that they have lowered their standard, which is bad cause now considering that this album is good coming from a guy so talented as eminem is clearly not knowing shyt in hip hop. If you can't see the huge gap between his last three albums and the 99-02 trilogy then replace your ears asap.

Listen to a track like soldier, or 8 mile on the ost, eminem was better because he kept it SIMPLE, it was lyrically complex but not too technical, he let the beat breathe he was focused. I don't care if he rap fast, that don't make him a better rapper, busta ain't top 10 because even if he can rap his ass of too he's not clever enough to gave the envy to pay attention to what he is saying, being technical to the point you don't let the lyrics and your voice shine can't be at your benefit

Like I said some of the bonus track are a little bit better than some of the retail, but nothng is ashtonishing. If Eminem can convince you people that he did a great job on this, then don't expect him to finally deliver great, because he won't since he will realize that even when he do garbage he will sell plus have critical acclaim which he don't deserve. Listen to Boldy My first chemistry set and then come back and tell me this is good beats (one of you even said some of the beats resembles alc stuff, no wonder why eminem can keep selling garbage with fans like this)

The people who are saying Em is better now than he was 99-03 literally have me like

Like I literally cannot fathom how someone could listen to this and think it comes anywhere close to his earlier work.

And I agree with the fact that Em rhymes were simple yet complex at the same time. The structure and subsequently the flow of his rhymes were much more smooth and seamless. Now he just jams a bunch of words that rhyme into individual lines which makes it sound complex so people think it's good.

Also, another thing this album is lacking is emotion. One of Em's best attributes used to be the genuine emotion he displayed on songs. Songs like The Way I Am, Soldier, Kim, Til I Collapse, Hailies Song, and Sing for the Moment had emotion and passion that made you feel what he's saying. Now when he tries to make an emotional song like on Headlights, Survival, Stronger than I was, or Legacy it sounds forced and corny.

And the beats are almost all garbage on this album. I know people love to hate on Em's production but at the end of the day most of his best tracks were self produced. I really wish he would get back behind the boards.

But honestly at this point I give up on Em. Dude hasn't put out a good album since The Eminem Show which was 11 years ago He'll never be as good as he used to be. He really needs to just retire.

 

[AkaDemiK]

Damn brehs, I just listened to survivor in its entirety for the first time. Previously I just listened to like half of the first verse and hated.

Verse 2

Survival got that aggressive Till I Collapse vibe, just not as dope..but it's still great....Em went the fukk in on those verses. I think a lot of ppl dislike the track because of shorty on the hook honestly....lol,they can't be listening to those verses and saying "well...this sucks".

 

[Rico]

I think there is a faction of Em haters that just are gonna hate everything he does. In all honesty if he dropped MMLP today they wouldn't like it. I heard someone say that his verses nowadays were random and they just want that mmlp type of rapping back. and I was like wtf? The thing he suffers from right now is being a good song writer. People just don't like his content. Personal preference. but he sells a lot so I guess it works for a lot of people. My issue is the delusion of people saying Em isn't spitting but love some Ross or Even some Kendrick.. There are levels to this.

 

[Ranger21]

"I feel like right now I'm probably working harder than I've ever worked in my life," Eminem says in the interview. "And I've probably worked harder on this record than any other record aside from maybe the time period during The Eminem Show, which is a little hazy 'cause just so much shyt was going on at that time. Just being so busy with The Eminem Show and doing the 8 Mile movie, and the soundtrack and the score to the movie. This is probably the equivalent of that but all focused on the record mostly."

"Once I had the direction that I wanted to go, and you know calling it The Marshall Mathers LP 2, obviously I knew that there might be certain expectations," Eminem says. "Like, I wouldn't want to just call it that just for the sake of calling it that. So I wanted to make sure that I had the right songs to be able to call it that. So, a lot of recording. A lot of songs that people probably will never hear. We hit a couple of road blocks. There were songs where the beat leaked or a producer sold the beat to someone else or whatever. And just when you think you got it or you got the right amount of songs you go back and you listen and you're like, 'fukk man! I feel like it needs this or this' to paint the whole picture."

"That's a tough question," he says. "For the most part, yeah. But I don't know if I ever feel totally great about a record when I put it out. With every record that I put out, someone has literally got to come pry it from me because when I listen to my own music, I just hear flaws in it. Like I hear 'Oh fukk! I could have done this better or that better!' And I'll work it to death. Obviously if I wasn't comfortable with it, I wouldn't put it out. But from the beginning, ever since my career started, I don't know if I've ever been totally like, this is completely it."

Eminem notes that Tyler, The Creator continues to say he is a big fan of Relapse.

"Yeah, he tells me that every time I see him," Eminem says. "I don't hate the record. I want to rap and be able to always try to do my best lyrically, but at the same time find the right balance between that and making the right songs. And you know, I don't know if I necessarily found that balance yet, because I was just getting sober and just kind of finding my feet again and so there was a lot of songs that were just like, 'Ha ha, this is funny.' You know, walking around and joking around with your friends and shyt and it ends up on the record and you're laughing about it. Because when I got sober it was like – I've said this before – but it just was like, 'Oh shyt! I can think straight again.' So I don't know if that record was particularly my best work as far as songs, writing songs that felt like something, that brought some kind of emotion. I ran accents into the ground. I got stuck on that kind of serial killer, crazy vibe and just kind of went with it."

"I feel like that record I finally got back to where I was at maybe during The Eminem Show," he says. "Like, creatively and songwriting, I guess. I mean obviously Recovery was the first time I had ever worked with that many producers outside of our camp. Aside from working with Dre, it was like I always wanted to produce my own records, because producing is fun to me too. One of the things that was cool for me about that record was getting beats that already had choruses on them. It's kind of like a challenge to myself to be able to hear somebody else's hook and kind of interpret the words. Because my own hooks, I already know what I mean when I write them. The way that I do music is, like, regardless of what the beat is and whatever kind of appeal it may or may not have, I always want to try to go as hard lyrically as I can. So regardless if the beat feels like, 'Wow maybe this could be played on the radio,' I'm not like, 'Maybe radio would play this so I'll just wing it.' Like, I always have looked at it like I want to approach every record from an emcee's aspect."

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...ails-the-making-of-the-marshall-mathers-lp-2-

 

[AkaDemiK]

The way that I do music is, like, regardless of what the beat is and whatever kind of appeal it may or may not have, I always want to try to go as hard lyrically as I can. So regardless if the beat feels like, 'Wow maybe this could be played on the radio,' I'm not like, 'Maybe radio would play this so I'll just wing it.' Like, I always have looked at it like I want to approach every record from an emcee's aspect."

This is why Em is fav. MC next to Nas....This shyt right here. Salute.

 

[Busby]

This is why Em is fav, MC next to Nas....This shyt right here. Salute.

Its EXACTLY how ALL rappers should approach a beat...but hey..what do we know

 

[AkaDemiK]

Its EXACTLY how ALL rappers should approach a beat...but hey..what do we know

it's why they will forever be considered mediocre with dumb ass fans.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Man, I bet he has a legit classic in them throwaway songs.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[Costanza]

man lets be real recovery was trash... but this is a really good album... this is what you want from eminem... the track where he forgives his mom brought that single tear to my eye