Elon just fukked up! Told white Americans they are too dumb to hire.

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black folks like to be loud...force people to admit they are wrong and make empty promises that lead nowhere...
its why politicians easily play us

were left with no power and a bunch of people sitting around talking reparation and how the white man has done us wrong

meanwhile Asians are buying up property in England, sending their kids to the best school and heading the largest corporations in the world

white folks are in a position where they NEED these Asians whether they like it or not
This is one of Asian's top attributes. Them nikkas will shut the fukk up for 30 years while cornering an entire market right under everyone's nose. Then an outsider doing some research will be like :wtf: did y'all know Asian's have the highest median income in the country?" But by then it's too late

In their silence they beat the white man at their own game:manny:
 

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1/16
@RobertMSterling
H-1B DATA MEGA-THREAD 🧵

I downloaded five years of H-1B data from the US DOL website (4M+ records) and spent the day crunching data.

I went into this with an open mind, but, to be honest, I'm now *extremely* skeptical of how this program works.

Here's what I found 👇



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2/16
@RobertMSterling
Before I start, one note: All charts in this thread are for applications that were “certified” (in other words, approved for entry into the H-1B lottery). I filtered out applications the gov rejected.

All numbers here are therefore for visas employers actually and realistically attempted to obtain.



3/16
@RobertMSterling
To start with, this program is MASSIVELY popular with employers. The program has a statutory limit of 85,000 visas per year, but employers routinely receive approval for more than 800k applications per year (868k, or 10x the limit, in 2024).



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4/16
@RobertMSterling
Contrary to what I expected, the average salary for an H-1B is relatively low—slightly under $120k this year.

Given that much of the H-1B debate pertains to tech workers, I (incorrectly) assumed the average would be higher. But this is the beauty of data, right?



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5/16
@RobertMSterling
You can see that salaries are disproportionately weighted toward the lower bands:

17% are < $75k (blue)
21% are $75-100k (orange)
22% are $100-125k (pink)
15% are $125-150k (teal)

In other words, ~75% are jobs paying < $150k. Only 25% are $150k+, and, of those, only 2.5% are $250k+ (purple).



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6/16
@RobertMSterling
I (roughly) categorized job descriptions into computer/software/IT-related roles (teal) and everything else (gray).

Almost all the prominent job categories are tech-related. The two top categories, for software developer roles, are 1.1M over five years by themselves.



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7/16
@RobertMSterling
Basically every role with 30k+ H-1B applications is for a STEM field, with the exception of accountants and auditors (49k). Most of them IT-related, at that.

There’s a little more variety in roles with smaller numbers, but the overall tilt towards STEM remains throughout.



8/16
@RobertMSterling
Let’s review applications by employer (again, with teal representing IT roles and gray being everything else).

There are some HUGE numbers here. 15 companies alone received approval for 20k+ applications each.

We’ll go back to employers momentarily.



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9/16
@RobertMSterling
Looking at applications by employer NAICS code, 5415 (computer systems design) absolutely dwarfs everything else: 1.2M applications over five years.

The next two largest are 6113 (universities) and 5416 (consulting).

As consultants like to say, let’s double-click into this.



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10/16
@RobertMSterling
NAICS code 5415 (computer systems design) is the category for many of the larger employers we saw above. Some of the companies here—Google, IBM, Salesforce—are household names.

But what about the other large applicants here, which aren’t as familiar (Cognizant, Infosys, Tata)?



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11/16
@RobertMSterling
As it turns out, these are ALL Indian companies that import H-1B tech workers en masse:

Cognizant (93k)
Infosys (61k)
Tata Consultancy Services (60k)
Wipro
Capgemini
HCL
Compunnel
Tech Mahindra
Mphasis

These aren’t American companies that needed international talent to fill critical roles. They’re foreign companies that appear to have been founded to place overseas tech workers into US companies as contractors.



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12/16
@RobertMSterling
What jobs are these companies seeking visas for?

A metric f**k ton of IT and software roles. Over the past five years, 80k+ computer systems analysts (Cognizant is the big player here). 50k+ systems engineers/architects (Cognizant + Tata). Programmers (looks like Wipro and Mphasis concentrate here) and IT project managers (Infosys).



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13/16
@RobertMSterling
The chart here shows each company’s average salary for each role. I’ve added a shaded gray band between $80-120k to highlight where the preponderance of salaries fall.

I’ve spent my career in M&A and corporate finance, and I’ve been involved in a lot of budget and hiring decisions. Unless we’ve overpaid every developer and IT person at every company I’ve ever worked for, $80-120k for roles like this is NOT market.



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14/16
@RobertMSterling
The H-1B program isn't just Indian companies requesting visas for IT workers, though.

The list of companies seeking visas for accountants is a who's who of Big Four and other prominent accounting firms. EY is crushing the competition with 16k+ applications.



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15/16
@RobertMSterling
EY also has the largest share of employers seeking visas for finance-related jobs, followed by investment banks Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, and Citibank.



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16/16
@RobertMSterling
Here are the roles for which EY sought visas, along with average salaries. Everything from accountants (16k) to computer systems analyst (7k) to actuaries (600 or so).

EY isn't even a major player in the world of actuaries! There's zero reason why they couldn't hire these people domestically.



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{continued}





1/4
@RobertMSterling
Here's Amazon's main H-1B LLC:



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2/4
@RobertMSterling
Google, not surprisingly, had 45k applications for software developers alone.



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3/4
@RobertMSterling
You can see where I’m going with this. A casual perusal of the data shows that this isn’t a program for the top 0.1% of talent, as it’s been described. This is simply a way to recruit hundreds of thousands of relatively lower-wage IT and financial services professionals.



4/4
@RobertMSterling
America needs to be a destination for the world’s most elite talent. But the H-1B program isn’t the way to do that.

I’m going to stop posting for now, but let me know if there are any other visualizations that would be helpful.

If you made it this far, thanks for reading!




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1/16
@RobertMSterling
H-1B DATA MEGA-THREAD 🧵

I downloaded five years of H-1B data from the US DOL website (4M+ records) and spent the day crunching data.

I went into this with an open mind, but, to be honest, I'm now *extremely* skeptical of how this program works.

Here's what I found 👇



Gf7Z1SFXUAAJ9jg.jpg

Gf7Z45dWEAAMUr3.jpg

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2/16
@RobertMSterling
Before I start, one note: All charts in this thread are for applications that were “certified” (in other words, approved for entry into the H-1B lottery). I filtered out applications the gov rejected.

All numbers here are therefore for visas employers actually and realistically attempted to obtain.



3/16
@RobertMSterling
To start with, this program is MASSIVELY popular with employers. The program has a statutory limit of 85,000 visas per year, but employers routinely receive approval for more than 800k applications per year (868k, or 10x the limit, in 2024).



Gf7acdCXsAAWrXh.jpg


4/16
@RobertMSterling
Contrary to what I expected, the average salary for an H-1B is relatively low—slightly under $120k this year.

Given that much of the H-1B debate pertains to tech workers, I (incorrectly) assumed the average would be higher. But this is the beauty of data, right?



Gf7anYEWkAEqlhC.jpg


5/16
@RobertMSterling
You can see that salaries are disproportionately weighted toward the lower bands:

17% are < $75k (blue)
21% are $75-100k (orange)
22% are $100-125k (pink)
15% are $125-150k (teal)

In other words, ~75% are jobs paying < $150k. Only 25% are $150k+, and, of those, only 2.5% are $250k+ (purple).



Gf7a19eW8AATcu6.jpg


6/16
@RobertMSterling
I (roughly) categorized job descriptions into computer/software/IT-related roles (teal) and everything else (gray).

Almost all the prominent job categories are tech-related. The two top categories, for software developer roles, are 1.1M over five years by themselves.



Gf7bG-pXkAAW6St.jpg


7/16
@RobertMSterling
Basically every role with 30k+ H-1B applications is for a STEM field, with the exception of accountants and auditors (49k). Most of them IT-related, at that.

There’s a little more variety in roles with smaller numbers, but the overall tilt towards STEM remains throughout.



8/16
@RobertMSterling
Let’s review applications by employer (again, with teal representing IT roles and gray being everything else).

There are some HUGE numbers here. 15 companies alone received approval for 20k+ applications each.

We’ll go back to employers momentarily.



Gf7bbEHXUAENOSO.jpg


9/16
@RobertMSterling
Looking at applications by employer NAICS code, 5415 (computer systems design) absolutely dwarfs everything else: 1.2M applications over five years.

The next two largest are 6113 (universities) and 5416 (consulting).

As consultants like to say, let’s double-click into this.



Gf7bm0TXsAAzcsI.jpg


10/16
@RobertMSterling
NAICS code 5415 (computer systems design) is the category for many of the larger employers we saw above. Some of the companies here—Google, IBM, Salesforce—are household names.

But what about the other large applicants here, which aren’t as familiar (Cognizant, Infosys, Tata)?



Gf7b48AXMAA6Bsa.jpg


11/16
@RobertMSterling
As it turns out, these are ALL Indian companies that import H-1B tech workers en masse:

Cognizant (93k)
Infosys (61k)
Tata Consultancy Services (60k)
Wipro
Capgemini
HCL
Compunnel
Tech Mahindra
Mphasis

These aren’t American companies that needed international talent to fill critical roles. They’re foreign companies that appear to have been founded to place overseas tech workers into US companies as contractors.



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12/16
@RobertMSterling
What jobs are these companies seeking visas for?

A metric f**k ton of IT and software roles. Over the past five years, 80k+ computer systems analysts (Cognizant is the big player here). 50k+ systems engineers/architects (Cognizant + Tata). Programmers (looks like Wipro and Mphasis concentrate here) and IT project managers (Infosys).



Gf7cietWQAATxGD.png


13/16
@RobertMSterling
The chart here shows each company’s average salary for each role. I’ve added a shaded gray band between $80-120k to highlight where the preponderance of salaries fall.

I’ve spent my career in M&A and corporate finance, and I’ve been involved in a lot of budget and hiring decisions. Unless we’ve overpaid every developer and IT person at every company I’ve ever worked for, $80-120k for roles like this is NOT market.



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14/16
@RobertMSterling
The H-1B program isn't just Indian companies requesting visas for IT workers, though.

The list of companies seeking visas for accountants is a who's who of Big Four and other prominent accounting firms. EY is crushing the competition with 16k+ applications.



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15/16
@RobertMSterling
EY also has the largest share of employers seeking visas for finance-related jobs, followed by investment banks Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, and Citibank.



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16/16
@RobertMSterling
Here are the roles for which EY sought visas, along with average salaries. Everything from accountants (16k) to computer systems analyst (7k) to actuaries (600 or so).

EY isn't even a major player in the world of actuaries! There's zero reason why they couldn't hire these people domestically.



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All those companies are Indian. Damn Indians were running quite the racket bringing millions of IT "talent" from India and underpaying them.
 

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Damn that white woman looked mad as fukk as they trolled white people in this segment






1/7
@FreeThinkerFit
MSNBC tells their viewers Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are coming after white people after recent comments regarding H-1B visas.

“They coming for you, they said y’all white and lazy.”

Michael Steele says Vivek is now telling white people, what white people have been telling black people for generations.


https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1873124286463889408/vid/avc1/1154x636/yQ7OyAdOCXWz1IFf.mp4

2/7
@CulturedGent
I love it when black people think Indian outsourcing hasn't lowered their community's wages and standards of living.

They're really missing it, nobody is talking about "White People" aside from the super far right.

We're talking about American citizens losing the good jobs and also believe it or not we're upset that Indians are being abused.

They're missing the point and strutting victoriously without realizing we're trying to protect them too.



3/7
@MySimpleAss
Dude, when it comes to America, tech is a predominantly white male industry that white boys have been gate keeping for decades. You’re not advocating on Black people behalf. You’ve excluded us from the benefits of the industry. So exclude us from your fight with Indians.



4/7
@CulturedGent
H1B drives down everyone's pay, not just tech. That's why it's so funny you think that. You really don't get how an economy works.



5/7
@MySimpleAss
I realize how the economy works. I also know that white Americans have targeted Black people and our upward mobility through your anti-woke and anti-DEI policies & initiatives. Now you want me to be an ally so you can return to do what you always do.



6/7
@Blissxes
Exactly. Talking about protecting us?? When they’ve done the most harm to us. Yea leave us out of this war plz.



7/7
@Indigo1_
Thank you!!!




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If nikkas ever wanted to pawg, this might be the perfect time :mjlol:


White folks in shambles, white liberals embarrassed by these other white folks, white women p*ssy dry af all over the US :mjlol:
Nikkas don't need permission to pawg, they've been doing it in record numbers for going on 15 years now:mjlol:

Why you think every cac shooter manifesto mentions black men?:mjlol:
 

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1/7
@FreeThinkerFit
MSNBC tells their viewers Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are coming after white people after recent comments regarding H-1B visas.

“They coming for you, they said y’all white and lazy.”

Michael Steele says Vivek is now telling white people, what white people have been telling black people for generations.


https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1873124286463889408/vid/avc1/1154x636/yQ7OyAdOCXWz1IFf.mp4

2/7
@CulturedGent
I love it when black people think Indian outsourcing hasn't lowered their community's wages and standards of living.

They're really missing it, nobody is talking about "White People" aside from the super far right.

We're talking about American citizens losing the good jobs and also believe it or not we're upset that Indians are being abused.

They're missing the point and strutting victoriously without realizing we're trying to protect them too.



3/7
@MySimpleAss
Dude, when it comes to America, tech is a predominantly white male industry that white boys have been gate keeping for decades. You’re not advocating on Black people behalf. You’ve excluded us from the benefits of the industry. So exclude us from your fight with Indians.



4/7
@CulturedGent
H1B drives down everyone's pay, not just tech. That's why it's so funny you think that. You really don't get how an economy works.



5/7
@MySimpleAss
I realize how the economy works. I also know that white Americans have targeted Black people and our upward mobility through your anti-woke and anti-DEI policies & initiatives. Now you want me to be an ally so you can return to do what you always do.



6/7
@Blissxes
Exactly. Talking about protecting us?? When they’ve done the most harm to us. Yea leave us out of this war plz.



7/7
@Indigo1_
Thank you!!!




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Ah I see we've finally arrived at the :damn:BLACK PEOPLE WHY AREN'T YOU SAYING ANYTHING? THIS IS WRONG CAN'T YOU SEE HOW WRONG IT IS???" part of the program :blessed:
 
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