Elizabeth Warren HQ: She's Got A Plan!

[AnonymityX1000]

I personally don't care that much, but obviously a ton of people do. It's what fuels the take machine, and it's the reason why we're still seeing the 2016 Democratic Primary being litigated 3 years on. I have my criticisms of Bernie, but I really like him and would gladly support him as he would be the most transformative Democratic general election candidate in modern history. That being said, we can't pretend as if politics is simply the dictates of the single candidate; the words and actions of a candidate's official and unofficial supporters speaks to the type of political coalition they're building. It's why hiring people like David Sirota or Briahna Joy Gray is a legitimate issue. Bernie campaigned hard for Hillary, but many of his surrogates/supporters didn't really follow his lead, because he captured revolutionary energy. There is a fight for the soul of the Democratic Party right now, and different interests are battling it out. It's a good thing. My point was simply to clarify what I saw as an inaccuracy. Claiming that Bernie's crowd hasn't been ramping up their anti-Warren rhetoric, or that Warren('s camp) is indistinguishable from Hillary('s camp) seems like a smear to me.

Yeah I disagree with the bolded, I don't think or hope candidates are drilling down on who is mouthy, a shyt talker, vindictive etc. working for them. I think stuff like that is out of their control.

 

[chico25]

 

[JoogJoint]

Economic Nationalism

but for real tho, Bernie's crowd jumping on the bash Warren train is a sucker ass move. American Leftists (not including Progressives) do this silly shyt where they begrudge and grandstand for a politician for not being an Anarcho-Communists that wants to open up the commons, yet Bernie gets the kid gloves treatment.

When in reality, both bases should be using this point in time to strengthen their and improving their grassroots/community outreach and aid so that when SHTF come next recession/Trump getting reelected, the vision can continue on outside of electoral politics.

That's what I'm saying. Some of these White Bernie Bros. are being stupid and don't see the golden opportunity to work together to get rid of Joe Biden. That should be the main objective right now. Sanders supporters don't seem to realize that Warren's supporters have SIMILAR if not the SAME agenda.

 

[Wargames]

That's what I'm saying. Some of these White Bernie Bros. are being stupid and don't see the golden opportunity to work together to get rid of Joe Biden. That should be the main objective right now. Sanders supporters don't seem to realize that Warren's supporters have SIMILAR if not the SAME agenda.

The biggest difference is she doesn’t call herself a socialist which is a problematic term throughout most of modern American history

 

[JoogJoint]

The biggest difference is she doesn’t call herself a socialist which is a problematic term throughout most of modern American history

Even though smart people know that we already have Socialism in this country and it isn't bad, I just wish Bernie Sanders stop referring himself as a Socialist. He should say "Socialized Democrat" instead.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

which is why she's running the smarter campaign

The biggest difference is she doesn’t call herself a socialist which is a problematic term throughout most of modern American history

 

[fckyoupayme]

The biggest difference is she doesn’t call herself a socialist which is a problematic term throughout most of modern American history

He won't because that would require him to water down his message. He's got heart but refuses to play the game, which is why he won't win.

 

[JoogJoint]

I like Warren and her policies, but I have to give my vote to whoever can beat trump. I don't think she can pull it off and I can't do anything 4 years

Warren is a true alternative unlike Joe Biden.

I really think you guys are underestimating the HATE for Obama from Trump supporters. Anybody associated with Obama is getting instantly negged by Trump supporters that are allegedly gonna vote for Biden.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Every1 watch this

 

[King Kreole]

Yeah I disagree with the bolded, I don't think or hope candidates are drilling down on who is mouthy, a shyt talker, vindictive etc. working for them. I think stuff like that is out of their control.

I mean, staffing is one of the most important things a candidate does. It’s an indicator of who they’d surround themselves with as President. The DC political operative world is extremely insular and cliquish, so these interpersonal beefs pop up all the time, but if a candidate isn't vetting their staff and surrounding themselves with vindictive operatives bearing grudges, I think that's a legitimate concern.

 

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[storyteller]

Yeah I disagree with the bolded, I don't think or hope candidates are drilling down on who is mouthy, a shyt talker, vindictive etc. working for them. I think stuff like that is out of their control.

I think there's a case for both. The supporters are a reflection of the candidate to an extent and the staff moreso. But then again, Bhashkar Sunkara's critiques are Warren reflect legitimate concerns from the left that I'm not surprised by. Jacobin reps the left side of even Bernie's supporters so it makes sense they have concerns for Warren who's to his right. In the same deal, I remember the Vox dudes coming at Bernie from a more center friendly angle that also backed Warren (though Matthew Yglesias actually deleted the two most polarizing tweets I wanted to use as examples).

 

[TTT]

I think there's a case for both. The supporters are a reflection of the candidate to an extent and the staff moreso. But then again, Bhashkar Sunkara's critiques are Warren reflect legitimate concerns from the left that I'm not surprised by. Jacobin reps the left side of even Bernie's supporters so it makes sense they have concerns for Warren who's to his right. In the same deal, I remember the Vox dudes coming at Bernie from a more center friendly angle that also backed Warren (though Matthew Yglesias actually deleted the two most polarizing tweets I wanted to use as examples).

Where they the ones were he was saying she concentrates too much on the details compared to Bernie. I think Warren has done well to recover because I remember articles calling her campaign doomed but she stuck to her strategy and it looks like its paying dividends. It is amazing that a lot just comes down to stuff like likability and charisma which doesn't serve Warren well even if there are much bigger issues to worry about

 

[storyteller]

Where they the ones were he was saying she concentrates too much on the details compared to Bernie. I think Warren has done well to recover because I remember articles calling her campaign doomed but she stuck to her strategy and it looks like its paying dividends. It is amazing that a lot just comes down to stuff like likability and charisma which doesn't serve Warren well even if there are much bigger issues to worry about

Yeah it was during the first wave of "Warren = Bernie but with substance" narrative building so that's about right. It came off like a backhanded compliment to her and a shot at Bernie fans. I think the whole "electable" crap is a straight up convo killer. We should be focused on what these cats are planning for our future, not arbitrary stuff. I do think sincerity is more important than being likable though; Bernie and Warren being sincere is a big reason for their spots in the polling imo. I don't think they're traditionally charismatic but they'll still be fine, especially while Biden's only sell point is "he can beat trump." I don't think that'll hold up when the debates start.

 

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