Eboni K Williams: “We want black sperm but pickings are slim. Single motherhood by choice!” UPDATE: Eboni Is Now Preganant via IVF.

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I believe us not being married will keep black folks at the bottom.

My energy is telling me now that the reason we are at the bottom, the women, is that they are not married to black men.

Marriage is the start to us being in a better situation. (if you think about it, the way our synergy as a people was destroyed was when the black man was taken out of the home)

The more our women continue to be single and have babies out of wedlock the further we go down.

The men are not marrying single mothers or taking care of another man's child, the women for some reason are not seeing this/peeping this.

She, Eboni cuts her chances now of getting the man she wants. I guess she thinks at 59, her baby will keep her life going. Sick mindset.

Having a baby at this age because she can't marry the man she wants. sick mind man
The lack of a family dynamic destroys the power we could have as a community. As long as we don't have a community it's hard to leverage our economic prosperity as a unit to get legislative kickbacks. But people are too out of touch with reality to see this especially this modern woman with this mindset. They're the only race that proudly shout from the mountain tops how they don't need their men
 

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Facts.

When I said all this in another thread I was a c00n 🤷🏾‍♀️




Anyway- no, I don’t like seeing this, but Eboni is the exception to the rule because she can actually afford a live-in nanny and help in her household. The average woman cannot and shouldn’t do this.

Hell I have an older cousin thru marriage who did this, but she’s literally a CFO making over $200k. Gotta big house with a pool and can afford to hire help. 99% of (Black) women can’t afford to do that.

I really wish she didn’t make herself the poster child for this mess…but here we are.
She's been walking this path the last few years. We're seeing more and more examples pop up recently. But everyone when they're young thinks that it won't ever be them. But the stats never lie
 

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Oh, please. Spare me your wet tissue bullshyt.

I prevent many people in my circle from becoming "like that".

How?

Leading by example. Valuing family and stability. Showing love and support to the women in my life. Holding the men in my circle accountable and making sure we're all doing what we need to do and supporting each other. I amplify the qualities instilled in me by my father and the men in my family.

What I don't do? Get up on the internet and coddle grown men pissed off over women they don't know and will never meet talking shyt. I don't condone, nor seek to understand "Black women BaddDDddDDd!!11!!" c00nery is a hard pass for me.

Want understanding? Find a fukking therapist.
Oh please, your approach is the reason why we have the current situation in the first place. For all your leading by example and yet this problem is such a problem that fukking internet daddies that you hate so much are gaining traction. You're losing to these people, and as you do, the black community falters even more. The very things people like you complain about came about during and due to all your "leading by example". Think about it, passport bros didn't exist, internet daddies didn't exist, SYSBM didn't exist, for all the dating out that occurred even pawgset more or less didn't exist. People like you had run of the community and brought it to the state that it is in right now. Why? Because you did not care to understand what was brewing. You did not bother to understand the very people you claim are important to the community. That's fukking weird.

If you want to fix a problem, you have to figure out how it came about and understand the people you are dealing with that are part of that problem. The fact that you consider understanding a problem and those immersed in it "coddling" is why the problem exists, persists, and continues to grow.

You don't want to fix shyt, you just want to front. So spare me the bullshyt. Everyone is tired of it.
 

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People usually date within their education, and professional level. Most 9 to 5 men are with 9 to 5 women. A male doctor may marry a school teacher, but she is still educated, and has a career. If you’re an educated man, you want someone with a brain staying home with your kids. Most women do not want to be the provider to men.

There aren’t enough accomplished black men to go around for the women. And to break it down even further, there aren’t enough accomplished black men who are single past a certain age, want to settle down, and are physically attractive to women. To break it down even further, let’s not forget that some black men simply want to PAWG or PAAG. When you have money, you have more options. Those black men weren’t going to stick to the small pool of black women if they didn’t find those women attractive, or weren’t compatible with them.
If any of thse are true (I'd love to see stats for it), the question I have is why? Each of those points are actually questions that require an answer. But apparently by asking that, some (not you) would say I'm "coddling" but let me "coddle" for a second and ask why anyways.
 

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Show me who “champions” it. I actually know several SMBCs of all races, none are “feminists”, they are women who were unpartnered late into their fertility window and moved ahead with having a kid. Y’all keep trying to over complicate things and make it as if every woman who goes this route hates men or never tried - of the five I know closely, two were divorced and one was once engaged. Another I know as an acquaintance, her husband killed their son, once she was ready to move forward, she did it alone. None of them have sworn off men and two are dating men now. Women have a window, taking control of that window doesn’t equate to hating men or the idea of traditional families, most women mourn the fact they won’t/don’t have a traditional family when doing this.


But go head, y’all got all the answers. I doubt any of y’all have really talked to anyone who has gone this route.

? You and other women are championing this if you are essentially saying it is the same as traditional families with no drawbacks. I am fine with individuals doing what they want but once your normalize this---and yes this is what is being attempted, why won't young women without a fertility wall decide to do this just cause?

Also laying their decision at the feet of men is where it gets silly. If they don't find the right man in life, it's our fault. If they don't find the ideal sperm donor, it's all fault. It's kinda silly and solipsistic.
 

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You are absolutely right. In the past, if you weren’t married you simply didn’t have kids.


But in a world where there are plenty of kids who need to be adopted, people who are late bloomers who didn’t find a partner in their youth, etc…yea there are people who still want to be parents and choose to do so without a partner. It is not optimal and not suggested, but I’d rather see a successful career woman raise a kid with the resources needed to afford help than a woman who was careless or a couple that is careless.

Finances play a part. A significant part, but that isn’t everything and can’t replace a father- you are correct. That definitely wasn’t what I was implying.

I agree adoption is good. Might not seem to be the most consistent stance but giving kids a chance who are already behind the 8 ball seems to be how this traditionally worked for decades. The debate over these sperm donors and IVF by single mothers by choice has seemed to view men more as optional than those that adopted ever did.
 

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? You and other women are championing this if you are essentially saying it is the same as traditional families with no drawbacks. I am fine with individuals doing what they want but once your normalize this---and yes this is what is being attempted, why won't young women without a fertility wall decide to do this just cause?

Also laying their decision at the feet of men is where it gets silly. If they don't find the right man in life, it's our fault. If they don't find the ideal sperm donor, it's all fault. It's kinda silly and solipsistic.
There are drawbacks when you don’t have support, many women doing this have support - mom’s or sisters who come stay with them. Brothers who are active in their kids lives, nannies and au pairs to help give them relief so they can show up as their best self to a child.


That said, there are younger women doing it now given how the internet has abetted the unregulated sperm market. Their background and decision making looks a lot different than the once typical SMBC.


I don’t subscribe to mom + dad being the only way a kid can have a well adjusted upbringing, for most of humanity child rearing was a communal effort. The nuclear family matters in modern society where people aren’t likely to live close to other family or be deeply connected to community, but if you have people who are a part of that child’s life, including a possible step father down the line, I don’t think it’s a detriment


Lastly, I don’t know any woman who laid her decisions at a man’s feet. Like I said, most women are either running out of time or at the age where they want kids, so they move forward. I have yet to meet someone who has said it’s a man’s fault they chose their path
 

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I agree adoption is good. Might not seem to be the most consistent stance but giving kids a chance who are already behind the 8 ball seems to be how this traditionally worked for decades. The debate over these sperm donors and IVF by single mothers by choice has seemed to view men more as optional than those that adopted ever did.
Adoption isn’t some straightforward solve either. Single parents have a harder time being placed, it costs a lot and things fall through all the time, there is a ton of trauma involved, especially if you’re talking adopting kids in the system who have a lot of issues - issues not every parent or couple is willing to deal with. Secodnyl, most adoptions today in the US are open, meaning the birth parent is sent updates, allowed to send letters, and even see the kid occasionally - that has been deemed what’s best for adopted kids but as the adoptive parent, who wants to contend with a biological link hovering around? that has potential to undermine your relationship to the child. Lastly, there are fewer kids being placed for adoption - between birth control, termination, and families taking in kids - both babies and reuniting with kids in state custody, there are fewer kids available.


Most people want their own biological kids, IVF and the increased access to it via insurance is allowing for that. There are a growing number of single men who’d like to go this route also, except it’s prohibitively expensive to many given most need a surrogate.
 
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Like I said Western men are the most egalitarian humans on earth, we actually see women as equals lol (this is why the world takes advantage of us and women of all races see us as a lick).

Watch these women in silence and learn so you know what to look for when you make decisions in life. When dealing with Women it is supposed to be on your terms which should have protections you built. The issue is dudes try to play on a woman's terms not realizing women are illogical thus their rules change by the second hence they are never happy and will divorce a stupid nikka who think he did everything he could while she felt "mentally abused" whatever the fukk that means.
At the bolded part - One of the best statement on thecoli, ever.
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