yeah.... FIFA was the simplistic game and PES/ Pro was always the actual football gamePES ruled man.
We had competitions all through college and uni. FIFA was never taken seriously and was considered quite simple. I can’t even remember when it officially changed as there were people who knew PEA started to faulted but refused to buy FIFA. It was also a bit of an F U to western devs.
The Japanese had a proper lock on the football sim games. Seabass was considered a king.
I’ve still not had as much fun or gaming or emotional satisfaction since the PES days on any football game.
so many tournaments at school, uni, parties