Dwight sending subliminals at Kobe?

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And Kobe has a lot of Type A personality traits. I don't now that's a problem. I've been a witness to watching this dude dominate his position for the last 10 yrs. I have no problem with whatever he says.
 

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Dwight Howard says Los Angeles Lakers 'have to play like we like each other' - ESPN Los Angeles

EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- Dwight Howard knows a great team when he sees one. It cheers for each other on big plays, picks each other up after bad ones and plays with a chemistry you can't force. He saw a team such as that Friday night in the Lakers' 107-102 loss to the Los Angeles Clippers.
"Those guys on the Clippers team, they really enjoy each other off the court and it shows," Howard said Saturday after Lakers practice.

And how about the Lakers? Do they have that chemistry?

"It's something we have to do to get better," he said. "We have to play like we like each other. Even if we don't want to be friends off the court, whatever that may be, when we step in between the lines or we step in the locker room or the gym, we have to respect each other and what we bring to the table.

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(Chemistry is) something we have to do to get better. We have to play like we like each other. Even if we don't want to be friends off the court, whatever that may be, when we step in between the lines or we step in the locker room or the gym, we have to respect each other and what we bring to the table.

” -- Lakers center Dwight Howard
on team chemistry
"It really starts off the court. I think you have to have that relationship and that chemistry off the court for it to really blossom on the court. It takes time to develop that. You just don't come together and then expect to be best friends right away. It just doesn't happen like that."

The topic came up because of Howard's complimentary comments about the Clippers after Friday's game, and a strange play in which Lakers forward Jordan Hill injured his ankle, rolled around in pain on the ground, but none of his teammates came over to check on him.

Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni said he addressed the play involving Hill with the team at Saturday's practice, but didn't think the Lakers lacked chemistry.

"I think it was a lapse. I don't think it was meant," D'Antoni said of the team's lack of a reaction to Hill's injury. "It's something we addressed and talked about.

"I don't know if anybody has the formula for making the chemistry right. But I know if everyone takes personal responsibility and plays hard, it will work itself out. It's amazing how you quit talking and pointing and rationalizing and playing as hard as you can play; we'll be fine.

"We need to play hard. We need to take accountability, each one of us. 'What's in it for me?' We need to get that out of our vocabulary and wonder what's best for the Lakers."

D'Antoni said if the Lakers chemistry was lacking, it's simply from lack of time together. For instance, he said the relationship between Howard and point guard Steve Nash on pick and rolls is "not there yet."

"I don't know if it's because of a lack of training camp, or a lack of Steve being with us from the beginning, but the relationship between Steve and Dwight's got to get a lot better," D'Antoni said. "It's not creating the easy shots that we need."

The Lakers coach also questioned the basic premise that players need to be close off the court to play well together on it.

"I don't know. I played on a lot of teams and I never really hung out with guys all the time," D'Antoni said. "I don't think you have to love each other. But you have to respect each other with what they do on the court."

Whenever a superstar Lakers center starts talking about chemistry, or a lack thereof, the conversation usually turns back to the tumultuous but ultimately wildly successful seven-year run of Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant that resulted in three NBA titles.

When asked to compare the still-developing dynamic between himself and Howard to the run he had with O'Neal, Bryant laughed.

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"That was a different dynamic. Shaq and I were a different dynamic," Bryant said. "That type of duo, you're not going to find another duo like that ever. There were other duos that were better than us, (Scottie) Pippen and (Michael) Jordan. But you'll never find a duo with two dominant personalities like myself and Shaquille. That was kind of a once-in-a-lifetime thing."

Looking back on those years, Bryant said he's amazed the peace held as long as it did.

"That just wasn't going to last," he said, laughing. "You have too many alpha males. What do you think would happen if you put Jordan with Wilt? It's just not going to happen."

So can two alpha males ever coexist long enough to win titles?

"We did. We won three straight," Bryant said, referencing the Lakers' three-peat from 2000-02. "One of them has to sacrifice. I sacrificed quite a bit with individual numbers and MVPs and NBA Finals and all this other stuff.

"Phil (Jackson) used to come to us as a team and let me take over in the march to the Finals. Then in the Finals against Eastern Conference teams that had true centers, we went through Shaq. Those are things I was willing to sacrifice. You have to have that sacrifice to make that dynamic work."

Asked again how that compares to the dynamic with Howard, Bryant said: "It's not the same thing. On that team, it was me and Shaq and role players, who were excellent role players. Here, it's me, Dwight, Steve and Pau (Gasol). We play to each other's strengths. Steve is the best facilitating guard. Pau is the best facilitating big man. The ball goes through those guys and it allows them to make everybody better. It's really that simple."

When told of Bryant's quotes, characterizing himself as sacrificing during the O'Neal era, Howard asked for clarification.

"He took a back seat?" Howard asked. "I was super young, so I really don't remember too much from those championship runs."

Howard was then asked if he saw himself as the same kind of alpha male personality as O'Neal.

"You can't look at it as the alpha male. It's basketball. We're not a pack of wolves," Howard said.

"There's different ways to lead a team. Sometimes you have to follow to learn how to lead. I've done an excellent job with guys of being somebody they can all come to if they have a problem.

"But if they're not working the way they need to work, I'm the guy that will tell 'em, 'Hey, you need to get in the weight room or get some extra shots up.' That's where I come in. I don't have to bark about it to you guys (reporters) or to the team."

Howard then explained what his definition of an "alpha male" was.

"If you're an alpha male, you don't have to always show that you're the alpha male," he said. "Just be who you are. You come in the room, people know you're there.

"My presence is felt every day and I don't have to come here and growl and snarl at people. I don't have to do all that."

Instead, he said he tries to create a happy, enjoyable work environment.

"(My teammates) like when I come in, have fun and enjoy myself. Because they want to have fun and enjoy themselves, too," Howard said. "If they can't do it, it's not a great working environment.

"I don't think you guys would want to come into work with a boss that's always telling you what to do. If you see the boss being at ease and having fun doing it, then you're going to have fun doing that. That's who I am. I've been an alpha male my whole life, but I don't go pissing everywhere to show people that I'm an alpha male. I just need to be who I am."

This is getting messy :whew:
 

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I Get The Feeling Dwight Wants The Team To Good Around, Pull Pranks On Each Other And Make Up Fun Dances Together

He Doesn't Realize He's On A Team Whos Franchise Is Big On Professionalism, And Kobe For The Most Part Isnt Into Goofing Around And Kinging Up Handshakes

Remember When Dwight Tried To Get The Team To Come Up With A Black Mamba Call And No One Gave A shyt? :laugh:

You see it breh, dude is a cornball and a jokester, he didn't want that pressure. What's funny is that if he goes to Brooklyn, he and his wack back would be taking all that heat Deron is taking right now. What did he think NY would be kind to him?

Some cats are better off in smaller markets.
 

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And Kobe has a lot of Type A personality traits. I don't now that's a problem. I've been a witness to watching this dude dominate his position for the last 10 yrs. I have no problem with whatever he says.

We just finding out who the real alpha male is. Dwight is not about that life. He got the talent but not the mental part.

IT was never going to end well because Dwight still think that he's an alpha male. The only way for this team to be successful is if Dwight somehow accepts that he's a more athletic Tyson Chandler.

:shaq: was right
 

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Kobe and Dwight need to stop being punks. They are both right, but they are both punks. Let Nash lead the team and everybody else go to their spots. This has to be the dumbest team since last year's Knicks. It's Dantoni, Kobe and Dwight, they're made for each other.
 

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Kobe and Dwight need to stop being punks. They are both right but they a both punks. Let Nash lead the team and everybody else got to their spots. This has to be the dumbest team since last year's Knicks. It's Dantoni, Kobe and Dwight, they're made for each other.

Isn't it a coincidence that 'Antoni coached both those teams. :youngsabo:

In regards to Dwight, that dude has no right to say a damn word. That dude has been :trash:

From FT's to turnovers to stupid ass fouls.
 

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Kobe and Dwight need to stop being punks. They are both right but they a both punks. Let Nash lead the team and everybody else got to their spots. This has to be the dumbest team since last year's Knicks. It's Dantoni, Kobe and Dwight, they're made for each other.

Thats why Phil Jackson was a better hire than D'Antoni. He not scared to call out anybody. :birdman:


And he usually does so publicly :win:
 

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Isn't it a coincidence that 'Antoni coached both those teams. :youngsabo:

In regards to Dwight, that dude has no right to say a damn word. That dude has been :trash:

From FT's to turnovers to stupid ass fouls.

Thats why Phil Jackson was a better hire than D'Antoni. He not scared to call out anybody. :birdman:


And he usually does so publicly :win:

Honestly, Kobe can change the mood of his team if he wants but he's too stubborn. He can make Dwight WANT to play better,make everyone else play better and Antoni coach better. No hate but Bean needs to stop:birdman: and let these brothers:cook:. Yeah he won 5 rings but his attitude is messing this team up, they (Nash, Dwight, Meeks) came to play for and with him, but he's treating them like they owe him something. They don't feel welcome and it's evident by their body language, except Meeks. Lebron would do wonders for this team.........not with Antoni though :rudy:.
 

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Honestly, Kobe can change the mood of his team if he wants but he's too stubborn. He can make Dwight WANT to play better,make everyone else play better and Antoni coach better. No hate but Bean needs to stop:birdman: and let these brothers:cook:. Yeah he won 5 rings but his attitude is messing this team up, they (Nash, Dwight, Meeks) came to play for and with him, but he's treating them like they owe him something. They don't feel welcome and it's evident by their body language, except Meeks. Lebron would do wonders for this team.........not with Antoni though :rudy:.

kobe is a dictator. Remember how Phil Jackson use to call him a "hired gun".
This nicca will not hold your hand if you strugglin. SHIIITTT if you holding him back he might just kill you himself and keep it movin'.
This is the same Kobe who elbowed Ron Artest in the neck more than once and showed no remorse. How many people you know are crazy enough to elbow MWP in the neck?
 

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Kobe ran Shaq outta town, Dwight is gonna run Kobe outta town.

Jim Buss don't like Kobe anyway, they'll trade him to the Bulls so he waives the no trade.
 

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Kobe ran Shaq outta town, Dwight is gonna run Kobe outta town.

Jim Buss don't like Kobe anyway, they'll trade him to the Bulls so he waives the no trade.

they still havent use the amnesty yet.
 

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kobe is a dictator. Remember how Phil Jackson use to call him a "hired gun".
This nicca will not hold your hand if you strugglin. SHIIITTT if you holding him back he might just kill you himself and keep it movin'.
This is the same Kobe who elbowed Ron Artest in the neck more than once and showed no remorse. How many people you know are crazy enough to elbow MWP in the neck?

He's messing up his team being a dictator. This team isn't built for dictatorship, that 08-10 team that made 3 finals in a row was built for his dictatorship, his strengths and his persona, this team isn't. Nash should lead on the floor and off the floor,if Kobe needs to pacify these guys to win, then he better do whatever he has too. Kobe is will never win again, watch. Im not a huge fan of his but I'm not a hater either but homie can change all of this if he really wants. He doesn't want to win, he just wants to play great.
 
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