Dumb Question: Is Israel A Legitimate Country

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

that shows your argument is weak. i didnt even read this thread i just posted my 2 cents. theres really nothing to discuss. thats how the world works and thats how it is. nobody is owed right to any land.

The earth belongs to the original people. Like they say in the scripture.

Gen 1:26 Then god said, "Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

You trying to say if you paid for where you live, and somebody forces you out, then you don't belong there?

 

[ZEB WALTON]

The earth belongs to the original people. Like they say in the scripture.

Gen 1:26 Then god said, "Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

You trying to say if you paid for where you live, and somebody forces you out, then you don't belong there?

im saying people been pushed around since day 1. should whitey have equal claim to africa since he was "kicked out" at the dawn of time? should the original natives who lived where i live now come take it back? the people THERE NOW will die to make sure it dont happen. the UN bullied palestine, LOTS OF shyt went down. TODAY israel is a REAL COUNTRY. if you dont believe that im sure theyll be more than glad to send a tank down ya street and show you how real it is.

if the natives rose up and bullied america and took my house and im gone and the new native american country formed in its place, started international trade, settled in, is that mine anymore.?NOPE someone took it from me (someone who is also part of THEM). it never belonged to me its just land god gave everyone that i pay tax to sleep on. THEM in your quote is for all people natives, palestinians, and americans and jews. when THEM dont get along.... War occurs over territory in nature through animals, happens with humans too

this a very simple principle people why is it so mind boggling to everyone

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

im saying people been pushed around since day 1. should whitey have equal claim to africa since he was "kicked out" at the dawn of time? should the original natives who lived where i live now come take it back? the people THERE NOW will die to make sure it dont happen. the UN bullied palestine, LOTS OF shyt went down. TODAY israel is a REAL COUNTRY. if you dont believe that im sure theyll be more than glad to send a tank down ya street and show you how real it is.

if the natives rose up and bullied america and took my house and im gone and the new native american country formed in its place, started international trade, settled in, is that mine anymore.?NOPE someone took it from me (someone who is also part of THEM). it never belonged to me its just land god gave everyone that i pay tax to sleep on. THEM in your quote is for all people natives, palestinians, and americans and jews. when THEM dont get along.... War occurs over territory in nature through animals, happens with humans too

this a very simple principle people why is it so mind boggling to everyone

True indeed Israel today is a nation thx to the standards/politics of war and government, BUT that still doesn't make it justified. This is why there is a determined plan to conceal the real history of blacks and europeans in the US and abroad, because if they taught it, the European would be afraid of the original people running them out.

Blacks built America and didn't get anything. We and Native Indians ARE justified to take over this country if we wanted too, however we don't think like the enemy nor do we have a real knowledge of god and his enemy.

So it is in Israel and the people of Palestine. Except the Palestine people know who the enemy is, who took their land, and are trying to get back what was rightfully theirs.

An eye for an eye.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Why did this go past page 1?

are people really going on about this?

 

[Blackking]

Yeah I'm sure Religion has nothing to do with it..

didn't say that.
But even if they didn't place Jews there... this would be a problem. Wrong is wrong.

 

[Blackking]

Retarded comment #1 : It was in the process of being created independently of anti-Semitism in Europe, long before the holocaust.



Retarded comment #2 : Israelis were not "created." Conceptually, they always existed.



This is the only part that is true. After years of Palestinians and other Arabs oppressing Palestinians, refusing to sell land to Jews (segregation), and terrorizing Israelis, religion really is not a factor. If the world held Arabs to the same standards that they hold Jews to, the Palestinian leadership wouldn't be as abusive as it is to its people, and this would have been settled a long time ago.

Good job on this point.

It wasn't in the process of being created... immigrants moved there previously. The world leaders came together after ww and created the official nation.

Israelis as an official group that belonged to the nation that oppresses it's neighbors was created... as a group of people...... semantics.

 

[TLOL is back]

It wasn't in the process of being created... immigrants moved there previously. The world leaders came together after ww and created the official nation.

Zionism started in the late 1800s and Jewish leaders were talking with both Muslim leaders and British leaders about creating a Jewish state. The British were working on it since the early 1900s, long before the holocaust. So yes, Jews were officially granted independence after the holocaust, but they were in the process of attaining independence anyway.

Israelis as an official group that belonged to the nation that oppresses it's neighbors was created... as a group of people...... semantics.

No, its not Semantics. Israelis as an official nation always existed. They were called Israelites. If you want to include your opinion that Israelis oppress Palestinians, that's your opinion - but it has nothing to do with Israel as a nation always existing. They were never created.

 

[thekingsmen]

Zionism started in the late 1800s and Jewish leaders were talking with both Muslim leaders and British leaders about creating a Jewish state. The British were working on it since the early 1900s, long before the holocaust. So yes, Jews were officially granted independence after the holocaust, but they were in the process of attaining independence anyway.

Zionism has been proven to be nothing of Judaism or representation of Jews. It's an Ideology of Rich White Folk who enjoy having another Racist State in another part of the world.

Zion means Sun so the ism added is a worshipping of the Sun.




No, its not Semantics. Israelis as an official nation always existed. They were called Israelites. If you want to include your opinion that Israelis oppress Palestinians, that's your opinion - but it has nothing to do with Israel as a nation always existing. They were never created.

Israelis aren't Israelites and none of them are any relation to the land.