Drinking and Blacking out un-appreciation thread

[thoushallhustle]

Every post you've made in this thread has been terrible.

You taking 15 shots on your 15th birthday is irrelevant to the conversation and doesn't prove anything at all. You want me to use factual evidence when all you do is drop anecdotes in every post.

Show me a medical explanation of how normal people aren't able to black out like you claimed. That doesn't even make sense.

so basically you cant find anything to back up your argument so yout going to derail via insults? lmao goodbye. hit me up when you know what you're talking about.

 

[its_normal]

LOL, I blackout near enough every time I drink that's why I stick to ganja, don't have the head for alcohol.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

so basically you cant find anything to back up your argument so yout going to derail via insults? lmao goodbye. hit me up when you know what you're talking about.

Only thing I've argued in this thread is that blackouts are caused by drinking too much too quickly, which goes against the nonsense you posted earlier in this thread about normal people not being able to black out. Obviously what's considered too much and too quickly is going to vary, based on the person, things like an empty stomach, and other factors.

It's easily backed up if you use common sense or do a simple google search on what causes a person to black out.

Let me google that for you

This:

A normal person doesnt black out. If they drink too much they throw up and pass out.

Is obviously not true.

This:

No its not. If you consume too much alcohol you body will reject it and you will vomit. In extreme cases you will die.

Doesn't take into account the obvious possibility of someone consuming too much alcohol, then blacking out AND vomiting. You try to make it seem like it's an either / or thing when that's not the case at all.

Not to mention that none of your claims have been backed with any factual information from you, other than personal anecdotes (cause that one time you drank 15 shots, or that other time you drank on an empty stomach and didn't black out matters ), and you got the gall to try and trash me for not bringing up facts? SMH.

 

[Roger Sterling]

No its not. If you consume too much alcohol you body will reject it and you will vomit. In extreme cases you will die.

Blackout (alcohol-related amnesia) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ALCOHOL'S DAMAGING EFFECTS ON THE BRAIN

Alcohol - Blackouts, Brownouts and how they affect your body | Psychology Today

These links can go on and on. Anyway, this is rather inarguable from your side.

No just alchies. Normal people have a bad experience and either quit altogether or tone it down a bit. They arent mutually inclusive or exclusive of course there are cases of one existing without the other but what im saying is the little things tend to develop into bigger problems.

Right, so we're making a bit of progress! As long as you concede that this apparent causal slope isn't readily applicable to those mainly involved in enjoyment-inspired binge drinking - and by binge drinking I'm using a loose pretty liberal interpretation.

No im not saying that at all. Binge drinking after negative consequences is a symptom of a problem, blacking out can be a symptom AND a risk. If someone is blacking out they might not have a problem at the moment, but if someone is binge drinking even though they know its not a good idea then it IS a problem.

You kind of did though - "it leaves you highly vulnerable to developing it" (alcoholism), "Anytime you binge on anything its a problem", etc.

At this point we may have to discuss what constitutes a "problem" or something being "not a good idea." I can safely say that merely blacking out/suffering memory loss from a previous night would never be considered a big issue where I'm from, more so just an occasional incidental effect. Chalk it up to being part of the game, I guess. Although, context should be considered, and I never went out on a drunken rampage or rape spree, for instance.

No. There are a bunch of other variables to consider.

Sure, but considering your line of argument thus far (see the aforementioned posts), you'd have to venture a guess at post-grads being pretty damned non-functional due to to alcoholism.

but it can be a large magin of error. Science changes all the time.

A bit of a cop-out...

there is no cut off definition. Some people can drink and then stop one day and never look back, others arent so lucky.

Okay, strictly your opinion, under what conditions would you describe someone as an alcoholic?

 

[thoushallhustle]

So I guess my real life experiences with alcochlics and substance abuse counselors wasnt enough. There are just as many articles to support my argument:

Your Health -

Genetic factors

Some studies suggest that genetic factors affecting the way people’s bodies process and respond to alcohol may also influence an individual’s risk of becoming an alcoholic.

Brain scans find why some people 'black out' after drinking - and why others remember it all to gloat the next morning | Mail Online

Blackouts - Are Alcohol Blackouts Real?

Blackouts – A Sign You May Need Alcohol Treatment | The Canyon Rehab Blog

There are more but im sure you get the point. I think my real life several hour long conersations with licensed professionals and patients trumps some wikipedia facts No one cares what causes you to black out the point is that you blacked out period instead of passing out. Im not sure why ya'll are so stuck on blackouts as if I said that was the main component of alcoholism. Ive stated other risk factors but yall keep gliding right over them.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

The thread is about blackouts the fukk are you talking about?

And lol at you talking about "wikipedia facts" when one of the links you posted was about.com.

shyts jokes.

 

[thoushallhustle]

The thread is about blackouts the fukk are you talking about?

And lol at you talking about "wikipedia facts" when one of the links you posted was about.com.

shyts jokes.

yes but i have real life experience with licensed professionals in addition to my internet links. Where is your real life experience? Medical degree? substance abuse counselor certification? oh right thats what i thought...

 

[L&HH]

have blacked mad times, always from drinking too fast, or trying to hurry up and get right before going out, or already at a club...shyt sucks mostly, its like u didnt even go out, if all u remember is going in the club and the first 30 mins, the the next then u know ur waking up like what the?

This is basically all my cases that I was trying to explain to thoushallhustle. When you get a late start drinking and are in a rush to go somewhere that doesnt allow you to bring your own drinks shyt just happens. like I said drinking too fast, empty stomach, no sleep (in my experience its a blackout waiting to happen). Now thoushallhustle seems alot more versed on the topic than I am (I admittedly have only done about 5min of research on this) and seems to believe blacking out is a symptom of bigger problems (potential alcohol abuse or alcoholism). Now i will admit although I've blacked out I've never thrown up (except one time in an extreme case where apparently I had drank like half bottle of Burnetts even after I was blacked out and even then the throw-up was marginal at best). I said that to say I have friends who have thrown up and never blacked out. Now the reasons why I black out and dont throw up and they throw and dont blackout, I have no clue. (In fact we use this too make fun of each other as to whose more of a "lightweight" they make fun of me blacking out and I make fun of their throwing-up).

 

[Melt_Man]

There are two types of blackout personalities:

Theres the type who wakes up like "fukk what dumb shyt did I do last night?" But after you talk to all your friends and they say how you looked and acted normal and they didn't even realize you were blacked out.

The other type wakes up from a blackout with bloody clothes an upset girlfriend and a DUI.


I'm not proud of blacking out I'm just grateful I'm the former personality when I do.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

It's the worst, when I was younger I used to this.

Only on a very, very rare occasion will I get like this nowadays.

I hate when I see these kids taking pills and drinking, looking to blackout. shyt aint cool.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

When were you in Okinawa. I was there for 3 years.


this nikka was drinking 151 and hen. Wtf you think was gon happen. Yeah, you inexperienced. But we all started there tho.

06- late 07. Worked on Torii but lived on Kadena

 

[Mainevent_7]

I blackout once.
It was the worst time of my life.
I decided to pre game for a party without eating that day. My friends and I killed a whole handle of bombay gin before going to the party. Long story short i ended up leaving the party and sleeping in my car for 5 hours. I was throwing up so much that it started to come out my nose.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Hustle ruined this thread.


But, I have blacked out plenty of times and every single time it was because I was drinking too fast, empty stomach and lack of sleep.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

yes, xans and percs mixed with brown is great in the moment but horrible in the long run.

My nikka.....I did that shyt when I lived in KC. Popped like 2 percs and a Zoloft while drinking Crown. Somehow, some way, ended up at a Tom Fooleries and zoning out to this house band that played what seemed like a 60 min rendition of The Doors "When the Music's Over". Luckily one of my boys was there and took me home. The whole weekend I was just praying that my high would come down. After that I refuse to drink and do pills again. I've been dry for about a yr and a half now

 

[61 Corpses]

I blacked out once in college from too much 151 and Jim Beam. From what I was told by nikkas.....I tried to jump out of a moving vehicle, got into a fight with one of my nikkas over some white bytch, and was throwing empty beer bottles out the window from my dorm room on the eighth floor
The only thing I remember is puking in my sleep all night and sleeping in that shyt. I think a nikka had alcohol poisoning