Drake Responds To Joe Budden ' Take On His Album"You Failed @ Music..."

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He does rap on the album though people have weird criticisms of Drake albums like he hasn’t done a formula for ten year. Only criticism I have is the way the album was rolled out and presented. It’s clear they didn’t market it properly especially with yachty overhyping it. With that said it’s definitely not as bad as people have said.

Big facts right here. Throw away the Disco record, the 21 record, and the London playlist joints which were more or less 1 note/theme/vibe, this new album sounds like a today's version (sonically) of every old Drake album. Some raps, some singing, misc features from whoever is hot at the moment, etc. You can say its worse, but almost all of hip-hop has been watered down over the last 10 years or so, it is what it is :yeshrug:



If you didn't like Drake music before, you won't like this. If you did, you most likely will fukk with it. IMO half this album is bops, 25% is aight, and 25% is filler. Exactly what I would expect from a Drake album in 2023 :manny:
 

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I think the album sucks and that he's been mid since Scorpion so we just have different ears. Putting that aside, this is a very pro-Drake take from an obvious big time fan. You're projecting how you perceive people outside of Drake standom to be and it's a problematic and unhelpful take. It's actually everything wrong with critiques today - the need to cast anyone who disagrees with you as some sort of hater or trying to define their perspective in a light most favorable to your favorite instead of what's actually being said. It reads as some sympathetic post to Drake like he's some sort of victim. Drake makes the exact sort of music he wants to make because he wants to be a pop star and is an algorithm-driven artist. And no, he cannot make an album of straight bars because he has not been lyrically dope for going on 5 years. The fact that you thought 8AM in Charlotte was bars is indicative of this.

Go listen to the guy who outrapped J. Cole on the Jodeci freestyle and then listen to the dude who ducked the smoke from Cole on this album. Accept who he is and accept that our critiques are out of disappointment. Drake is older than me b - we grew up on the same shyt -- the nikka keeps rapping and TELLING YOU that he's not interested in hip hop like that but then gets upset when he gets negative reviews from hip hop fans -- it's insanity. You just said Kendrick's last album wasn't as good as FATDs -- come on my nikka -- like what? I'm not even a Kendrick fan like that (on record on here). :deadrose: You actually think Kendrick and Cole wake up and go --- you know what, let me make less hits so I won't be judged as harshly? Did you type this shyt? Drake is being judged this harshly because he's a hit driven artist with weak ass "hits" on this album and even weaker raps. He appealed to no one. Juicy J and them nikkas never labeled themselves as a GOAT - everyone who has been labeled a GOAT has been criticized for content and range. If you're saying he's just a Super Saiyan version of Nelly like I've said since Views then I agree.

Joe Budden burner account alert :francis:
 

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Drake is just a “look at me” type of dude, so even when he’s trying to be above things he’s still doing it in a way that is meant for attention

Look at me, I’m vulnerable to my audience
Look at me, I’m a ladies man
Look at me, I’m rich and put my team on
Look at me, i beef with legends

It’s all on some Drake shyt. Even when he goes to a new sound it’s still Drake shyt. He is a blockbuster star with no gravitas. Any role he takes on, the character may be different but he always approaches it the same way. He will chameleon his accent when speaking but as far as rap goes you get the same Drake, no matter how street, Island, emotional, cool, etc the packaging is presented.

I was the first one in my circle giving Drake real rap props. But he never showed who he was beyond having skills and making some smart moves with his career. But the insecurity still reeks. That’s why his handlers have to defend him from criticism and he lashed out at Budden the way he did. Dispute with dialogue, don’t lash out like a Housewife
 

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Drake is just a “look at me” type of dude, so even when he’s trying to be above things he’s still doing it in a way that is meant for attention

Look at me, I’m vulnerable to my audience
Look at me, I’m a ladies man
Look at me, I’m rich and put my team on
Look at me, i beef with legends

It’s all on some Drake shyt. Even when he goes to a new sound it’s still Drake shyt. He is a blockbuster star with no gravitas. Any role he takes on, the character may be different but he always approaches it the same way. He will chameleon his accent when speaking but as far as rap goes you get the same Drake, no matter how street, Island, emotional, cool, etc the packaging is presented.

I was the first one in my circle giving Drake real rap props. But he never showed who he was beyond having skills and making some smart moves with his career. But the insecurity still reeks. That’s why his handlers have to defend him from criticism and he lashed out at Budden the way he did. Dispute with dialogue, don’t lash out like a Housewife

This is a good description, could it also be that, there isn't much more to him? Upper 'middle' class kid from Toronto, a child actor/theater kid, with an ego, who was never really struggling or street, in the post 2008 ways of hip hop, but saw enough and kept enough around him to write the raps. Someone who is sort of smart, and got an education in marketing/branding from corporate kingmakers who guided his rise, but isn't really an intellectual, or college graduate, or self educated guy. Someone who enjoys the luxuries of an A list star, but for whom survival and life or death was never really the drive behind his ambition, (like a Jay-Z) who likes sports and chasing women, and raps about it, with the ever present guidance, and knowledge of how to market, promote, and retain a market. and product.

Takeway is, when you compare him to the genre's other giants, his background is just less compelling, which made it

A) harder to get into the game and be respected

B) easier once he was in the game to be more relatable than say 50 Cent, who was the biggest star just 4 years before, this relataibility plus huge corporate backing, made him able to expand and amass a fan base

C) harder to be AS compelling to his fan base a decade plus in, who have largely moved on from the single/party lifestyle ennuni he channels, and celebrates, raps from a perspective on. It lacks urgency.


Same as you I was on his music early, a few of my boys say the first time they heard Drake was at my house, and they said I told them "This is going to be the next star", and even with an exceptionally good memory, I don't even remember saying that around late 2008/early 2009.
 
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Maybe nostalgia is still heavy for people but given who Kanye is now ALOT of that music has aged bad. The peaks still resonate like I wonder through the wire etc but nah Kanye cringe self has morphed into something completely unrecognizable to what he was or promoted

Nah. He’s music is still being used in advertising, still being played in clubs, still trending on TikTok, etc.
 

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See this is why I hate the "discourse" sometimes...cause sassy nikkas like this always wanna cape for women and shyt...like bro cut it the fukk out...you already think men can be women now you're caping for this ambiguous "black women" like he's hating them.

The fukk is wrong with these softies? Just complete victims.

 

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See this is why I hate the "discourse" sometimes...cause sassy nikkas like this always wanna cape for women and shyt...like bro cut it the fukk out...you already think men can be women now you're caping for this ambiguous "black women" like he's hating them.

The fukk is wrong with these softies? Just complete victims.


Drake is a fukking cornball for shytting on Rihanna I don’t give a fukk what nobody say.
 
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