Drake can never be as good as Jay-Z

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Can Drake be better than his contemporaries before we compare him to GOATs?:gucci:

this. drakes music lacks depth and only a handful of his songs have any replay value.

lets just call it how it is. drake a chart chasing fakkit that dates 14 year old girls.

jays muslc already been proven to stand the test of time.
 

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I didn’t read the other post but the reason why he will never be hov is because he wasn’t born with the sauce (swag whatever the fukk you wanna call it) his confidence is more of a acting flex (a poor one at that) instead of natural and that’s the biggest difference.

I believe hov when he speaks, I don’t believe shyt Aubrey says.
 

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Drake doesn't have the same pedigree so he couldn't be anywhere close to Jay in a lyrical or deep song regard.
  • Not from the hood
  • Never been arrested
  • Never sold drugs
  • Seems to have a good relationship with his fam
  • Never had street beef
  • Never balled the fukk out before fame

Drake seemed to have a normal life before being an actor. You can't write the shyt Jay writes living a normal suburban kid lifestyle.

He can write about the traps of success and celebrity beefs, but that would be kind of diva-ish.

Drake on the other might go down as one of the greatest hit makers of all time.

Depends on what you want out of your career and your artist.
 

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Drake doesn't have the same pedigree so he couldn't be anywhere close to Jay in a lyrical or deep song regard.
  • Not from the hood
  • Never been arrested
  • Never sold drugs
  • Seems to have a good relationship with his fam
  • Never had street beef
  • Never balled the fukk out before fame

Drake seemed to have a normal life before being an actor. You can't write the shyt Jay writes living a normal suburban kid lifestyle.

He can write about the traps of success and celebrity beefs, but that would be kind of diva-ish.

Drake on the other might go down as one of the greatest hit makers of all time.

Depends on what you want out of your career and your artist.

This is where I raise the question to you: Why does it matter where a dude is from?

This is why so many cats out here capping today. Just because a dude is from the suburbs does not mean life was easy, and it does not make him less official. Everyone wants to glorify the hood aspect of their lives for the raps but really why is that so important?

Can someone not make a deep or lyrical song without being from the hood? Prior arrests mean you got something to say? Selling drugs makes your music hit harder? Never balled before fame like the majority of stars?

I'm not here to push the narrative that Drake is touching Jay, cuz he's not. But its not for any of those criteria.
 

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This is where I raise the question to you: Why does it matter where a dude is from?

This is why so many cats out here capping today. Just because a dude is from the suburbs does not mean life was easy, and it does not make him less official. Everyone wants to glorify the hood aspect of their lives for the raps but really why is that so important?

Can someone not make a deep or lyrical song without being from the hood? Prior arrests mean you got something to say? Selling drugs makes your music hit harder? Never balled before fame like the majority of stars?

I'm not here to push the narrative that Drake is touching Jay, cuz he's not. But its not for any of those criteria.
Certain shyt you just have to experience yourself. Not everything but certain aspects of life you have to experience 1st hand on order to put your soul in your music.
 

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this. drakes music lacks depth and only a handful of his songs have any replay value.

lets just call it how it is. drake a chart chasing fakkit that dates 14 year old girls.

jays muslc already been proven to stand the test of time.


You know what’s so crazy is when he first came out people said the opposite .

He was seen as too sensitive and a cry baby .

Then you go back and listen to his music this dude doesn’t talk about shyt .

His music is so hollow but he does it well .

He literally has a hand full of songs where he tells you small details .

I think everyone who we consider very good to great . Has poured their hearts out on either a whole album or enough through out to make one .

We actually know a lot of these artist story that why people connect to them . This is why it’s shameful when you hear a RAPPER doesn’t write .

Of course we like the turn up shyt but we like the personal journey too .
 
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Drake is pop rapper Jayz is an MC. Drake does his thing but we know for a fact that Jay said some of the illest shyt ever. He also helped usher Drake in unbeknownst to himself with his post RD shyt until he bust 99 degree with Dynasty when he oetltye Philly buls have a go
 

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What is Drake's best verse? Admittedly I'm not a fan and haven't heard many album cuts but this is one of the better verses I've heard from him..




I still remember where I was when I heard this, its older than the date it was uploaded to YouTube...

Some time in April 2013, I was cruising around midnight in Fayetteville, NC after dropping off. This was the promo lead into Nothing Was The Same, and this was when his lyricism took an edgier, and frankly, more lyrical style. It's a one verse song, but I still think it's one of his 5 hardest verses, and easily one of my Top 5 Drake tracks. It was a shift into the new Drake, I remember when I heard it late on the local radio station I was like damn, when he start coming like this?

I will always jam this muhfukka...



Drake is not even a top 50 MC and we comparing him to Jay? :heh:

Drake is a Top 50 rapper and he can be compared to Hov off the strength of his success this decade...

If we're talking strictly emceeing, as in raw rap lyricism, of course not, but I've been told Jay also isn't a Top 50 "emcee". That's a different convo though, being an All-Timer is about more than being able to rap good...

Can Drake be better than his contemporaries before we compare him to GOATs?:gucci:

The only rapper competing with Drake for #1 of the 2010s is K. Dot. Everybody else, and I do mean EVERYBODY, is below those two, and we're over 9 years complete of this decade, with less than 9 months to go. Those two nikkas defined rap this decade more than any other individuals. Nobody is catching them...

So yes, he already lapped his contemporaries. People like Jay, Ye, Wayne, Em, those dudes are all from older generations than Drake so they not really contemporaries, so I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about rappers who blew and/or had they biggest success this decade...

Rap is a sport, and Drake is a GOAT. Not Top 10, not probably Top 20, and I'm not exactly sure where he would fit, but it is a real stretch to say he not in the Top 50...

You know what’s so crazy is when he first came out people said the opposite .

He was seen as too sensitive and a cry baby .

Then you go back and listen to his music this dude doesn’t talk about shyt .

His music is so hollow but he does it well .

He literally has a hand full of songs where he tells you small details .

I think everyone who we consider very good to great . Has poured their hearts out on either a whole album or enough through out to make one .

We actually know a lot of these artist story that why people connect to them . This is why it’s shameful when you hear a RAPPER doesn’t write .

Of course we like the turn up shyt but we like the personal journey too .

I mostly agree with you, but I do think that So Far Gone has more substance than any of his other work. Legendary tape....

..............

Don't get it confused because I'm defending Drake fellas (and @ThiefyPoo), I'm the biggest Jay-Z fan. He the best rapper ever, excluding nobody, I've stood on my square on that from prison debates to arguments at work, etc. I will take that debate with anybody anyone wants to put up, trust...

But we in here downplaying Drake's legacy. I get it if you don't like him, but the reasoning in here is mostly emotional with no objectivity...
 
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