Drake & 21 Savage - Her Loss (Discussion Thread)

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I really like this album and enjoyed the dance one but I don’t think he can make the full lyrical rap album people want cause it’ll be too redundant content-wise


He can’t make it because he doesn’t write his own lyrics. Its obvious as day.

This is the best we’ll EVER get out of modern day Drake.
 

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The fact their about to do 400k with only 12,000 physicals sold and Taylor is about to do 265K with 80K physicals sold is really a testament to how streaming has really taken over the game. Crazy world we live in…
Physical in what form? Vinyls?
 
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Physical in what form? Vinyls?

Physicals or “pure sales” are all combined nowadays.

So if you purchase via iTunes, Amazon, Vinyls, or CD it all goes towards “physical”.

Taylor Swift sells a DISGUSTING amount of Vinyl, she’s the queen of physical sales.

I think the rapper with the most Vinyl sales is Tyler, The Creator though i’d have to recheck that or maybe @Piff Perkins knows offhand.

Kendrick Lamar steadily sells a ton of Vinyl as does Childish Gambino.
 

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Of him not writing? No, there's more "proof" of him writing than not writing.


Him having some reference tracks just isn't the same thing as him not writing. Especially when he writes for others with writer credits and other have watched him write.
He don't like him bruh. He know that man write his shyt. He just don't fukk with him.
 

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It's wild to me that you believe he doesn't write his lyrics
Of him not writing? No, there's more "proof" of him writing than not writing.


Him having some reference tracks just isn't the same thing as him not writing. Especially when he writes for others with writer credits and other have watched him write.
the guy is a fukking idiot. don’t waste your time
 

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Physicals or “pure sales” are all combined nowadays.

So if you purchase via iTunes, Amazon, Vinyls, or CD it all goes towards “physical”.

Taylor Swift sells a DISGUSTING amount of Vinyl, she’s the queen of physical sales.

I think the rapper with the most Vinyl sales is Tyler, The Creator though i’d have to recheck that or maybe @Piff Perkins knows offhand.

Kendrick Lamar steadily sells a ton of Vinyl as does Childish Gambino.

This is from the halfway 2022 point. Since then Kendrick has sold considerably more vinyl, and GKMC is probably close to half a million vinyl records sold this year alone. It's insane. Tyler does extremely well too.
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I wish I could find a chart I saw awhile ago that included older records. There are certain rap records that have been "trendy" or considered must haves for people building vinyl collections. Illmatic, Madvillainy, Game Theory, Ready To Die, and some others. Beyond just being great records, great cover ART really sells vinyl. Illmatic might be the greatest album cover IMO (and one of the most influential). Typically when I look at ideas for how people display their albums on a wall or shelf, I see Illmatic somewhere.
 

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wild how much this has been so well received by listeners but reviewers are going out of their way to downplay it

even though I'm not really following or caring about the discussions that have came of the "controversy" of this album I'm glad its happened, and stirred up something.. Kendrick's album was ripe for twitter discourse but people weren't fukkin with it musically that discussion barely got off the ground. everything was just so pleasantly mid this year.. we needed a little kick and the album is a very fun listen
 

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Drake’s music has been in the same mental place since around 2016-17. “Me and my best friends are rich as hell, I fukk 10/10 bytches but I’m sad knowing that they only love me cause I’m rich. But also fukk you cause I’m rich”

While with the Hov/Nas even Kanye type growth, you get the maturity that comes along with getting married/divorced, having kids, picking up new passions, helping the community. Not to say that these factors mean better music but you’re pulling from a deeper well.

I really like this album and enjoyed the dance one but I don’t think he can make the full lyrical rap album people want cause it’ll be too redundant content-wise

at around the same age Drake is now, Jay-Z came out of retirement to put out a dud album were he tried to sell being older was cool because Jim Jones was clowning him, the next attempt at a grown man album in MCHG didn't go over well with people because his roll out and billionaire talk alienated people
(the singles didn't help either)

2017, more than a decade after Kingdom Come, that was when he finally got all round critical and public praise for his grown man album in 4:44 were he stripped it down, condescended the listener and finally gave us some vulnerability plus he had the advantage of people intrigued at what was he going to say after Lemonade and the cheating furore that came from that.

Drake's got plenty of time

we won't get it any time soon or we might not get it at all but he's got plenty of time
 
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