Absolutely. You should definitely have hard limitations on a form like that otherwise it's a walking cheat code. Have them lose access to the form at a critical moment but to outright lose? That would make no sense at all.
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stepbackj34spud
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There's no proof that Fusions are included in the parameters for Strongest in the Universe, by all indications from the manga it pretains to a single individual. They shouldn't be included in any listing.
No way in hell Frieza is stronger than Gogeta or Vegito.
He definitely is. He trained for 10 years. He one shotted both of them at full power. A simple fusion wouldnt put them over Frieza rn.
Even on Namek, Frieza couldnt one hit KO Goku or Vegeta. He is a far away from them rn at any point in the series.
Fusion works on an unknown multiplier and secondly we've never even seen the upper limits of any fusion because they've never been actually pushed. You're arguing head canon based off your own impressions.
stepbackj34spud
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Somebody can correct me, but fusion has never been used on an opponent who had one shyt capabilities on the fusion pair.
Maybe Super Boo vs Gotenks and Trunks.
Maybe Super Boo vs Gotenks and Trunks.
stepbackj34spud
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Negative, im arguing what has been displayed in the manga and anime. When has fusion every been used when on an opponent who could 1 hit kill the fusion pair?
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Super Buu was playing with his food (literally), he could have easily broken Goku or Vegeta. They turned around and made a pack out of that man without ever exerting themselves. 90% of that fight was in base & they broke the Fusion.
stepbackj34spud
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Super Buu was playing with his food (literally), he could have easily broken Goku or Vegeta. They turned around and made a pack out of that man without ever exerting themselves. 90% of that fight was in base & they broke the Fusion.
Thats not how its worked or written recently.
No I didn't, your list was ass breh.You quoted the wrong list, fool.
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King P
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There's no such thing as "canon" anymore, y'all need to get that through your heads already 
Neg pending for that fraudulent edit.
What do you think the list should be?
The most egregious part of your list was having fukking Cell Max over Goku, Vegeta, Jiren, and even the man that killed him, Gohan. I understand there's some recency bias at work here with the movie dropping but got damn.
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Neg pending for that fraudulent edit.
The most egregious part of your list was having fukking Cell Max over Goku, Vegeta, Jiren, and even the man that killed him, Gohan. I understand there's some recency bias at work here with the movie dropping but got damn.
As I said, Cell Max according to the Internet was stronger than Broly. And it took Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo to defeat a weakened Cell Max.
That's the reasoning for those positions.
Super Buu was playing with his food (literally), he could have easily broken Goku or Vegeta. They turned around and made a pack out of that man without ever exerting themselves. 90% of that fight was in base & they broke the Fusion.
Dudes forget that Super Buu w/ Gotenks was ragdolling supposedly the strongest warrior in the universe
Using "the Internet" as a source is already a terrible sign. To make things worse, Gohan didn't collapse or even look winded after killing that man. Even maintained his form while chatting with Piccolo afterwards.
Nah, I'm calling cap on all that.