Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

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Baby Saga was piff to me :yeshrug:

Also, Super Saiyan 4 is right under OG Super Saiyan for best form in the entire series, don't @ me.
It's funny to listen to people complain that Saiyan transformations are just color swaps and longer hair but then try to shyt on SSJ4. That's an actual transformation, an aesthetic that clearly screams Saiyan primal power, definitely more than "Hey he's got red or blue hair now".:gladbron:
 

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It's funny to listen to people complain that Saiyan transformations are just color swaps and longer hair but then try to shyt on SSJ4. That's an actual transformation, an aesthetic that clearly screams Saiyan primal power, definitely more than "Hey he's got red or blue hair now".:gladbron:

3 had potential, then they threw it away in the same saga :deadrose:

Then Beerus flicked it into obscurity
 

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3 had potential, then they threw it away in the same saga :deadrose:

Then Beerus flicked it into obscurity
For a transformation to really register, it should stand out from the character's base form. That's what made the original SSJ payoff so memorable to the fans; at the end of a climatic story arc, our MC basically ascended to the next level and it was totally different than he was. You can still see the core but it's a different feel.

SSJ3 doesn't register like that because it's just SSJ with longer hair, the lone distinguishing feature is the pronounced neanderthal like eyebrow ridges, which is a nice touch. The OD hair just sets it up for parodies, like the one where Nappa gets SSJ3 and his mustache is like 4 feet long. :deadrose:
 

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3 had potential, then they threw it away in the same saga :deadrose:

Then Beerus flicked it into obscurity
Only Goku could survive a sonning like that. Lord knows what would of happen if vegeta or Gohans stans saw them take a casual ass whooping like that at max power.
 

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It's funny to listen to people complain that Saiyan transformations are just color swaps and longer hair but then try to shyt on SSJ4. That's an actual transformation, an aesthetic that clearly screams Saiyan primal power, definitely more than "Hey he's got red or blue hair now".:gladbron:
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For a transformation to really register, it should stand out from the character's base form. That's what made the original SSJ payoff so memorable to the fans; at the end of a climatic story arc, our MC basically ascended to the next level and it was totally different than he was. You can still see the core but it's a different feel.

SSJ3 doesn't register like that because it's just SSJ with longer hair, the lone distinguishing feature is the pronounced neanderthal like eyebrow ridges, which is a nice touch. The OD hair just sets it up for parodies, like the one where Nappa gets SSJ3 and his mustache is like 4 feet long. :deadrose:

If it was me making dragonball, Id have ssj 1, ssj 3, ssj 4, lssj, and ssg plus ui/ue the only forms. Ssj 2, ssb and trunks ussj look redundant when the others exist. Tori is a hack even this beast gohan shyt is just ssj2 with white hair and red eyes :dead:
 
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