Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga
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Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
That ignores this completely
Vegeta just doesn't like Future Trunks cause Future Trunks is a bit too needy and a know it all (cause being from the future he actually knows it all). Future Trunks was really raised by Bulma and Gohan so it makes sense he's like that.
When it comes to kids he's a better father than "leave them with Piccolo to train and let Cell kick their ass" Goku
He damn near got himself killed tryna fight cell when he thought cell killed future trunks. He committed suicide trying to stop Buu in order to save young trunks and fix his mistake of reviving Buu in the first place. There were plenty of moments during the Goku Black arc where he showed compassion for future trunks as well, in his own way. What you’re saying about his family isn’t true.
Its like I said: he cares about his ppl AND his place among them. That’s the root of his pride, that’s why he always felt he should be the strongest and most elite of all saiyans. It’s also why he would push so hard to save these new saiyans. As the prince, it’s his duty.
And you can’t compare the Vegeta of today to the one who killed Nappa, lol. That’s the point. He’s grown. vegeta has probably undergone more character development than anyone else in the Dragon Ball saga.
When you talk about his pride, what Vegeta is tapping into now and last episode to level up, what has more impact: his family or his ppl? Vegeta has ALWAYS been about his ppl, and his place among his ppl, first and foremost. During the Buu saga breh wasn’t even sure if the bonds to his family helped or hurt him. He’s grown since then obviously. He values family in a way Goku never will.
Still, theres a reason we call him the prince of all saiyans, even tho the whole race been dead since the first arc of Z. There’s a reason ppl fan-theory about what will happen when he finds out Beerus gave the order to wipe out his planet.
When Super started, Vegeta had spent how many years accepting that the saiyans are done, save for him, Kakkorot and their children? Then... he finds out they’re not done, and ends up with a prodigy for a disciple. Meets saiyans during the tournament even stronger than Cabba. And now they’ve all been wiped out again.
As long as he lives, earth and his family are fine. I took that scene to mean he’s fighting for more than that. Dude got a second chance to save the saiyan race.
That ignores this completely
Vegeta just doesn't like Future Trunks cause Future Trunks is a bit to needy and a know it all (cause being from the future he actually knows it all)
When it comes to kids he's a better father than "leave them with Piccolo to train and let Cell kick their ass" Goku
Where did I say goku was a good father?
Vegeta caring so much about random sayians from another universe while killing off and not looking for a way to restore the sayians from his actual home planet makes no sense.
No way around that
He made a promise. His love for his family is odvious yall reaching
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
I mean universe 7 Saiyans are some evil motherfukkers. Bringing them back would be like wishing for a bunch of homicidal nukes to come around. Imagine what would happen once they all discovered they could go Super Saiyan...... the Universe would be fukked.
Universe 6 Saiyans are way more in tune with who Vegeta is post Buu saga where he came to realize power isn't enough, you got to "try" and not be a psycho killer as well.
Zeno mimicking Jiren's pose had me 
Toppo and Jiren were almost out.
I wonder what happens to this match up though since Gohan is gonna go assist Frieza in the next episode. It looks like 17 will handle Toppo alone
Cool strategies from Goku
Goku should have destroyed the rocks as well
Freeza being an a$$hole is pleasing and I can't get enough of it.
I really would prefer that Vegeta have thoughts about Bulma and Bra, Trunk when he was about to go "Buff" Blue, I don't really dig that Cabba is that important to him
Goku>>>>17>>>>>Freeza>>>>>Vegeta so far. 17 is the most impressive to me in this tournament
Toppo and Jiren were almost out.
I wonder what happens to this match up though since Gohan is gonna go assist Frieza in the next episode. It looks like 17 will handle Toppo alone
Cool strategies from Goku
Goku should have destroyed the rocks as wellFreeza being an a$$hole is pleasing and I can't get enough of it.
I really would prefer that Vegeta have thoughts about Bulma and Bra, Trunk when he was about to go "Buff" Blue, I don't really dig that Cabba is that important to him
Goku>>>>17>>>>>Freeza>>>>>Vegeta so far. 17 is the most impressive to me in this tournament
He did those things but it’s nothing like the driving motivation to push hisself to keep a promise or attachment he has to random sayians. When those very people he felt that way about are back home on his planet and he’s not even thinking about them during the battle.
And if vegeta has grown so much and has such sayian pride he should have BEEN used the earths dragon balls to bring back nappa and raditz.
It just conflicts.
Really all they had to do was reference bulma trunks and the new born along with cabba a few times during the fight and things would be golden.
Instead it seems his driving motivation isn’t even saving the universe but keeping a promise to that kid.
That’s all I’m saying
Fillerguy
Veteran
How the fukk I miss this? Beerus had the Sayians destroyedWhen you talk about his pride, what Vegeta is tapping into now and last episode to level up, what has more impact: his family or his ppl? Vegeta has ALWAYS been about his ppl, and his place among his ppl, first and foremost. During the Buu saga breh wasn’t even sure if the bonds to his family helped or hurt him. He’s grown since then obviously. He values family in a way Goku never will.
Still, theres a reason we call him the prince of all saiyans, even tho the whole race been dead since the first arc of Z. There’s a reason ppl fan-theory about what will happen when he finds out Beerus gave the order to wipe out his planet.
When Super started, Vegeta had spent how many years accepting that the saiyans are done, save for him, Kakkorot and their children? Then... he finds out they’re not done, and ends up with a prodigy for a disciple. Meets saiyans during the tournament even stronger than Cabba. And now they’ve all been wiped out again.
As long as he lives, earth and his family are fine. I took that scene to mean he’s fighting for more than that. Dude got a second chance to save the saiyan race.
. The Gawd is surrounded by 
ass nikkas. He outta take his family and Gotenks outta universe 6 before they go too. I would Piccolo too but he be on that house nikka/mammy shyt with Goku and them. I don't blame him though, Gohan needed a father.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Episode 123 was awesome. One of the best episodes of Super. It was so good I had to watch twice. Vegeta did it brehs! 
Jiren
Jiren
Ironman
#Knickstape
Goku getting a powreup from getting smacked by his own spirit bomb is an asspullHe has a lot of points tho, but I disabled critical thinking for this shyt and it’s much more enjoyable without. That said I felt like that was an asspull episode as I was watching Vegeta powerup
