Dr. Umar Goes Off On The Entire Rap Community

[BK The Great]

 

[iliketurtles]

He's talking about kbot

 

[Street Knowledge]

Where’s that school good doctor

 

[Mac Ten]

Snoop coaches pee wee football

50 always gives back, just provided jobs to Louisiana

Master P was throwing back to school drives

T.I saved a man from suicide


What Umar done for the community except for run up inside desperate single mothers and eat up their food???


I’ll have more respect for Umar if he told the truth about the school.

Dude pushed Lord Jamar away due to his stupidity

 

[Awesome Wells]

It's f*cked up, but he's right.

But it's not Hip Hop culture's fault. The culture has saved lives. It's more about the lack of change and impact Hip Hop has had on the people as a whole. You see it all over, including on here. People are more focused on the negativity, and who caught what case, and who has beef with whoever, than they are on the music and how the music and community can come together to move some sh*t forward. The culture of the "community" is every man for himself, so Hip Hop can't do much. The "fans" fell for the division and separation, so they're invested in the drama now, way more than uplifting each other and moving as an actual community.

Last time Hip Hop looked like a real community was in the mid-90's. But it's the mentality of the people that keeps it from doing what it should for everybody. N*ggas can't come together to do sh*t. So Hip Hop can only do so much as a culture. The people have to change.

 

[Plankton]

He said it hasn't done shyt for the Black community in 50 years. So we really gonna just ignore the stop the violence movement in 89?



The same stop the violence movement that influenced the West Coast to address the gang issue?





All this while in the midst of Hip hop being in the height of the conscious era that had brothers wearing African medallions and dressing Afrocentric. Dr Umar has confirmed numerous times he doesn't know shyt about hip hop history but where the fuk was he in the late 80s/early 90s that he doesn't remember this era? Maybe I'm jumping the gun because I'm just going by this one clip. Maybe there is more and he does mention it in the full version, we will see when the full version is available and if he does I'll stand corrected but based on this clip it sounds like he doesn't know the history.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

So we really gonna just ignore the stop the violence movement in 89?

That didn’t stop a lick of violence.

 

[Awesome Wells]

He said it hasn't done shyt for the Black community in 50 years. So we really gonna just ignore the stop the violence movement in 89?



The same stop the violence movement that influenced the West Coast to address the gang issue?





All this while in the midst of Hip hop being in the height of the conscious era that had brothers wearing African medallions and dressing Afrocentric. Dr Umar has confirmed numerous times he doesn't know shyt about hip hop history but where the fuk was he in the late 80s/early 90s that he doesn't remember this era? Maybe I'm jumping the gun because I'm just going by this one clip. Maybe there is more and he does mention it in the full version, we will see when the full version is available and if he does I'll stand corrected but based on this clip it sounds like he doesn't know the history.

That was the era we grew up in, but Hip Hop was something completely different back then. Those kinda records would never get the green light today. But the top artists today would also never commit to that kind of message and release records like that. There aren't any on that scale. Hip Hop stood for something back then. It was actually another tool for education. Today, there's nothing being pushed on the records that anyone can learn from.

So as much we love Hip Hop, we have to honest about the quality of what's being pushed today, and think about how different the unity and messaging was back in the day. Rappers are literally trying to kill other rappers now. You didn't see that back then, like that. This need for "opps" and to create drama with each other, has kept everything from moving forward and evolving. So now the wrong people own all of this, and all the artists are beefing over crumbs and bullsh*t. That's on the people.

 

[Plankton]

That didn’t stop a lick of violence.

You're being unrealistic. Violence is human nature. We are not in the Millennial Kingdom where Jesus is the King of The world for 1000 years and there is peace on Earth like it says in the book of Revelation. The effort to address the violence at rap events and the gang issue in Cali counts. That's called using your status aand platform to take action and address serious issues in the urban community. The effort itself by all those rappers should be applauded yet here you are downplaying it. SMH.

 

[Plankton]

That was the era we grew up in, but Hip Hop was something completely different back then. Those kinda records would never get the green light today. But the top artists today would also never commit to that kind of message and release records like that. There aren't any on that scale. Hip Hop stood for something back then. It was actually another tool for education. Today, there's nothing being pushed on the records that anyone can learn from.

So as much we love Hip Hop, we have to honest about the quality of what's being pushed today, and think about how different the unity and messaging was back in the day. Rappers are literally trying to kill other rappers now. You didn't see that back then, like that. This need for "opps" and to create drama with each other, has kept everything from moving forward and evolving. So now the wrong people own all of this, and all the artists are beefing over crumbs and bullsh*t. That's on the people.

But Umar said "Hip Hop hasn't done shyt in 50 years." You yourself just acknowledged the message from 89 and 1990 was positive. That was 34/35 years ago. So Umar is wrong. That's why I said he doesn't know the history.

 

[Awesome Wells]

But Umar said "Hip Hop hasn't done shyt in 50 years." You yourself just acknowledged the message from 89 and 1990 was positive. That was 34/35 years ago. So Umar is wrong. That's why I said he doesn't know the history.

I would assume he doesn't mean literally. I think what he's saying, is what most of us have been saying for a while. We spoke about it last week on here, when speaking about how KRS and Busy Bee tried to get a union started for MC's, so they could get health insurance. Nobody in Hip Hop supported it. They couldn't get anyone else to help with the initiative. Monch spoke about this a couple years ago, saying "Imagine how many of our fallen rappers would still be here, if they had proper health insurance". For what Hip Hop is, and how profitable it's been, it should be way more beneficial to the black community. I agree with that.

We had a lot of records like that back then, but that's been deaded. The messaging today is wild and something different. And I do think that that plays a role in how the generation thinks and carries themselves. We gotta be honest about that. The same way we were inspired by the artists of that era and wanted to emulate whatever we heard, we have to expect the people to do the same today.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Whole lotta yapping and not enough action

When this charlatan gonna open a school or bank of his own instead of rambling about some bullshyt

 

[Plankton]

I would assume he doesn't mean literally.

Well then anything other then meaning literally doesn't make sense. That's like asking what has Jazz done for the Black community? What has Blues done for the Black community? What has R&B done for the Black community. Anything outside of acknowledging that Hip Hip is and has been a 'genre of music' for decades is over exaggeration.

Nobody was talking that "we need health insurance for these funk artists and we need other funk artists to support this movement" back in the day. Nobody was talking that "These doo wop singers need to build banks in the Black community" back in the day, so to expect it from Hip Hop, the genre, is unrealistic.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Well then anything other then meaning literally doesn't make sense. That's like asking what has Jazz done for the Black community? What has Blues done for the Black community? What has R&B done for the Black community. Anything outside of acknowledging that Hip Hip is and has been a 'genre of music' for decades is over exaggeration.

Nobody was talking that "we need health insurance for these funk artists and we need other funk artists to support this movement" back in the day. Nobody was talking that "These doo wop singers need to build banks in the Black community" back in the day, so to expect it from Hip Hop is unrealistic.

I don’t really pay much attention to what other people are saying, by way of their intentions. I get the notion though because all of us have said the same. Just in mad different ways. Jazz actually did a lot for black people though. LOL!! Harlem was flooded with black businesses, black banks, and home ownership on the heels of Jazz. But again, we were way more united back then. Just like we were in the late 80's when those two tracks were recorded. That type of energy and unity is what's missing today. So if this music and culture is as powerful as it is today, we need to see it make a difference in the lives of the people who actually live the culture and come from it.

That should definitely be the expectation for anything black-rooted and fueled that's wielding that kind of influence and power. The sh*t shouldn't be benefiting everyone else, but not us. I don’t think KRS saying that "Hip Hop is an occupation, so we should have benefits for this too", is unrealistic. I think he's right. Everyone is making bread off Hip Hop, but the actual people creating it. If you choose to do this for a living, and this is how you support your family, you should definitely be afforded the same benefits that people at the record label get. Of course!

 

[TrifeGod]