Dr. Ben c00nson At It Again

[Dusty Bake Activate]

For the record, I never supported this man to run for political office.

Word?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/worl...his-face-prayer-breakfast.87462/#post-3193528

Post #7.



1. Wave pom poms for and jock the hell out of some political figure.

2. Find out something you don't like any them and start shytting in them.

3. Downplay and backtrack or deny #1.

How many times are you gonna do this man? One would think you would've learned by now.

 

[Elle Driver]

Funny ya'll don't pounce when gays compare their struggle to segregation and the black experience.

The affordable care act is trash. The fact that you either now better have insurance or you have to pay government is ridiculous.

But what if you're a black homosexual?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

But what if you're a black homosexual?

I think a better question would be what does this have to do with gay people at all. I find myself wondering that when gay people are randomly brought up in threads that have nothing to do with them, often in the form of horrible analogies that don't even make any sense like that one.

 

[Elle Driver]

I think a better question would be what does this have to do with gay people at all. I find myself wondering that when gay people are randomly brought up in threads that have nothing to do with them, often in the form of horrible analogies that don't even make any sense like that one.

I think he meant people are attacking him for comparing the ACA to slavery, but stay quiet when segregation and the black experience is compared to being gay in America. And I understand that, but do black queers not exist? I mean it's a huge black queer culture in NYC and more recently in ATL. I'm going off topic but I just felt that needed to be said.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I think he meant people are attacking him for comparing the ACA to slavery, but stay quiet when segregation and the black experience is compared to being gay in America. And I understand that, but do black queers not exist? I mean it's a huge black queer culture in NYC and more recently in ATL. I'm going off topic but I just felt that needed to be said.

Yeah but that's a pretty damn weak analogy though. Gay people (and non-gay people) often compare the struggle of gay oppression with the struggle of black oppression. It's a valid comparison in the sense that the animus that drives both phenomena is born of bigotry, fear, and hatred disguised as some defense of social order or virtue. But sometimes people go too far in not comparing, but EQUATING the two experiences, which can be inaccurate offensive.

What Carson did was literally say the ACA is slavery, which is lunacy. Now if some gay person said for example, DOMA is the same thing as slavery, that would also be lunacy. But I don't hear anybody saying that, so the analogy falls flat.

Not to mention that's only one part of the stupidity uttered by Carson. The other part being that the ACA is the worst thing since slavery, which is saying that the ACA is worse than Jim Crow, lynching, the ethnic cleansing of Indians in Texans, the Rosewood, Wilmington, and Tulsa massacres, women's suffrage, the murder of labor protestors by police and national guard in various instances, sweatshop and child labor in factories, the internment of the Japanese, the bombing of Dresden, the bombing of Tokyo, the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the bombing and chemical warfare on southeast Asia, the coups in Greece, Guatemala, and Iran, etc. the funding of death squads in Nicaragua and El Salvador, the Iraq invasion, Iran contra, the Tuskegee experiments, drone bombings in Pakistan, biological experiments on Guatemalan prisoners, redlining, funding coke cartels, the drug war, the prison-industrial complex, etc. I think that's what the thread was mostly about and what most people were responding too.

 

[Odyssey]

Man...you have to make the distinction between social democracy and mixed markets vs flat out communism. The biggest complaint that marxists have about social democracy is that it completely abandons communism for capitalism. The lenin quote is worthless in this context. Why is it so hard for American to adapt a Canadian or British style medical system while still allowing private medicine? This is so dumb i can't even troll in favour of it.

(Progressives are still commies though )

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

Dr. Ben Carson is a supporter of the Health Savings model, which has been implemented in Singapore. Singapore happens to be in the top 3 countries that provide the best healthcare in the world, #1 is Hong Kong which is considered the friendliest free-market capitalist society in the world, and #3 is Japan.

He's in favor of the model, and the model only. The success of Singapore and Hong Kong's health care system relies on the social model that they have adopted with support from the savings model.

Singapore has a non-modified universal healthcare system where the government ensures affordability of healthcare within the public health system, largely through a system of compulsory savings, subsidies and price controls. Singapore's system uses a combination of compulsory savings from payroll deductions to provide subsidies within a nationalized health insurance plan known as Medisave. Within Medisave, each citizen accumulates funds that are individually tracked, and such funds can be pooled within and across an entire extended family. The vast majority of Singapore citizens have substantial savings in this scheme. One of three levels of subsidy is chosen by the patient at the time of the healthcare episode.

Approximately 70-80% of Singaporeans obtain their medical care within the public health system. Overall government spending on healthcare amounts to only 3-4% of annual GDP, partly because government expenditure on healthcare in the private system is extremely low.

The government regularly adjusts policies to actively regulate "the supply and prices of healthcare services in the country" in an attempt to keep costs in check. However, for the most part the government does not directly regulate the costs of private medical care. These costs are largely subject to market forces, and vary enormously within the private sector, depending on the medical specialty and service provided.

There's no way that Obama or anyone else is able to consistently regulate health care prices due to the lobbying that you mentioned, so implementing the model would not be feasible.

And Hong Kong is close to a free-market economy but their health care is as close as you get to a socialistic system.

Generally speaking, Hong Kong’s healthcare system is divided into two options: public healthcare and private medical care. If you choose to opt for the public healthcare option, you do not need a Hong Kong health insurance. The government provides all healthcare services free of charge or for a small fee. However, if you choose to use the private system, it is essential to have a good Hong Kong health insurance, as your bills can be extremely high.

There are no financial contributions to public Hong Kong health insurance. The government simply provides healthcare for everyone at virtually no cost. This system includes not only Hong Kong citizens or permanent residents, but also non-permanent residents. Therefore, as soon as you are in Hong Kong with a valid visa and have acquired the Hong Kong ID card, you are eligible for public healthcare. Public medical care is administered jointly by the Hong Kong Department of Health and the Hospital Authority.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Word?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/worl...his-face-prayer-breakfast.87462/#post-3193528

Post #7.



1. Wave pom poms for and jock the hell out of some political figure.

2. Find out something you don't like any them and start shytting in them.

3. Downplay and backtrack or deny #1.

How many times are you gonna do this man? One would think you would've learned by now.

My god would you SHUT THE fukk UP! I simply posted an article by the WSJ stating Ben Carson should run for president, that now makes me his 1 ardent political supporter?

Get the entire fukk out of here. Your nothing but a troll at this point spreading bullshyt.

 

[Blackking]

channeling hhl4e with this response

I really expect more from the progessives in this thread.

The OP gives progressive the advantage, but realistically not 1 rebuttal to core ideas.... bencarson took it too far, but the reality is less options mixed w penalties equals less freedom. And forcing businesses to provide things against their will is less freedom.... lets remember Human's run business, so that's just another way to force humans to do shyt.

Here a site called obamacare facts - it is used to defend the bill.... in that defense it says...
"While the bill does not require mandatory RFID microchip implantation, it does establish an initial framework where the scope could be expanded with future legislation and regulation. "

Progressives were the first people against even the microchips and all that.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

My god would you SHUT THE fukk UP! I simply posted an article by the WSJ stating Ben Carson should run for president, that now makes me his 1 ardent political supporter?

Get the entire fukk out of here. Your nothing but a troll at this point spreading bullshyt.

I'm just trying to help you out bruh. Next time someone says something about politics you like, just say you agree and k.i. m. instead of "OH shyt DA GAWD ________ JUST SONNED THE fukk OUT OF ________ THIS GREAT MAN SHOULD BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT! I WANT TO GET A SEX CHANGE SO I CAN HAVE HIS BABIES!"