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I am literally dumbfounded at this post. Like this is so unbelievably absurd and yet you are completely self-assured in this response.

Hang on, hang on a second. Did you just say the cause of Greece's crisis was SOCIALISM? :laff: :laff: :laff: :laff:
Please go on, continue. You explain to us the cause of the crisis in Greece. Also enlighten us on what role Goldman Sachs, the Troika and Germany had to play in this "socialism" :lupe:


Greece has people making more money on pension than they did on the damn job. and the people that manage to find work with 27% unemployment rate pay soooo much in taxes they rather be fed by the welfare. If the unemployment rate goes down its because people gave up looking for jobs.

Greek government is taking on too much debt for it's social welfare programs and figures they don't have to pay anything back to it's creditors.

Greece is a net importer....they don't produce anything to get their gdp up. and to increase gdp you don't need the government interfering in private business unless it's quantitative easing. they showed a greek guy on cnbc saying the government tells him when to open and close his pharmacy, what he can have in his pharmacy, and that he can be the only pharmacist in his town. greek government needs to devalue their currency....but they are sticking with the strong euro which is not good for exports.

I could change Greece for the better and it starts with breaking away from the euro!!!!, staying out of private business to allow competition, and stop controlling the means of production. Then you lower taxes and scale back on the over the top social welfare that should only be for the needy. Greece is not capable of a service based economy and consumer based economy like the usa at this point...they need to be exporting stuff.


communism is only when private property is affected. foxnews will blame communism....so obviously i'm not taking their talking points and will never take financial talking points from an organization not named CNBC or Bloomberg. I know the denotation of financial terms....i'm not caught up in subjective connotations that change on a whim.
 

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Why should labor be taxed at double the amount that capital is taxed?.

Why should a doctor who works 70 hours a week to make $300,000 a year, pay 40% in taxes while a trust fund baby with no job pays 18% in taxes on his $300,000 a year in capital gains.

I'll wait while you google.


investment has risk...you could easily lose it all. shouldn't you be rewarded for taking on more financial risk?!?!

granted investing in the overall market is the safest bet and has been the best way to make wealth the last 60yrs.....but anything can happen.
 

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investment has risk...you could easily lose it all. shouldn't you be rewarded for taking on more financial risk?!?!

granted investing in the overall market is the safest bet and has been the best way to make wealth the last 60yrs.....but anything can happen.

Should physical risk then be accounted for in tax rates?
 

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Donald Trump doesn’t need Latino voters to win

Donald Trump doesn’t need Latino voters to win
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But if Trump could replace Latino votes with those of another large minority group that traditionally votes Democratic, he might have a fighting chance at victory. And even without changing his message, black voters could be that group.

Now who thinks that Trump has a shot in hell of winning any amount of the black vote in big enough numbers to matter in a Presidential election?
 

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Greece has people making more money on pension than they did on the damn job. and the people that manage to find work with 27% unemployment rate pay soooo much in taxes they rather be fed by the welfare. If the unemployment rate goes down its because people gave up looking for jobs.

Greek government is taking on too much debt for it's social welfare programs and figures they don't have to pay anything back to it's creditors.

Greece is a net importer....they don't produce anything to get their gdp up. and to increase gdp you don't need the government interfering in private business unless it's quantitative easing. they showed a greek guy on cnbc saying the government tells him when to open and close his pharmacy, what he can have in his pharmacy, and that he can be the only pharmacist in his town. greek government needs to devalue their currency....but they are sticking with the strong euro which is not good for exports.

I could change Greece for the better and it starts with breaking away from the euro!!!!, staying out of private business to allow competition, and stop controlling the means of production. Then you lower taxes and scale back on the over the top social welfare that should only be for the needy. Greece is not capable of a service based economy and consumer based economy like the usa at this point...they need to be exporting stuff.


communism is only when private property is affected. foxnews will blame communism....so obviously i'm not taking their talking points and will never take financial talking points from an organization not named CNBC or Bloomberg. I know the denotation of financial terms....i'm not caught up in subjective connotations that change on a whim.
This is spot on
 

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Should physical risk then be accounted for in tax rates?

what do you mean by physical risk? football players willfully take physical risk to obtain their higher pay checks...even though that is based on having a large audience of viewers. Physical risk is accounted for in terms of pay check and what someone is willing to accept like a construction job that pays $10 per hour. No one is forcing people to do specific jobs in the USA.





And post-tax money is used for investment in stock for the most part,lol....why should a hard working plastic surgeon be double taxed when he is making investments in a trust fund for his kids or in stocks for himself as a responsible person?!?!?

anyways, IRA and 401k is pre-tax money....therefore it is taxed at ordinary income and rightfully so. And if you take that retirement money for stock investments....why should it be taxed as ordinary income again when a senior citizen is taking on risk to generate some income in addition to social security?!?!? just crap on the elders of society, bruh!







people are being short of sight in this thread. feaking jim cramer lived in his car w/o housing and contributed to the s&p 500 while getting treatment at free clinics. More people than you realize sacrifice to contribute monthly to the market and will forgo luxuries for a better tomorrow. The fact people try to pass off owning stocks as a rich man's game is problematic....some people just have longer vision.
 

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From the article:



Now who thinks that Trump has a shot in hell of winning any amount of the black vote in big enough numbers to matter in a Presidential election?

only 60% of the population votes....it's about getting people motivated to hit up the polls, convenient voting times, and transportation. Been like that for over 50years. i'm not sure how much support a person needs to win....but I know getting your people to the polls is very important to winning.
 

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what do you mean by physical risk? football players willfully take physical risk to obtain their higher pay checks...even though that is based on having a large audience of viewers. Physical risk is accounted for in terms of pay check and what someone is willing to accept like a construction job that pays $10 per hour. No one is forcing people to do specific jobs in the USA.





And post-tax money is used for investment in stock for the most part,lol....why should a hard working plastic surgeon be double taxed when he is making investments in a trust fund for his kids or in stocks for himself as a responsible person?!?!?

anyways, IRA and 401k is pre-tax money....therefore it is taxed at ordinary income and rightfully so. And if you take that retirement money for stock investments....why should it be taxed as ordinary income again when a senior citizen is taking on risk to generate some income in addition to social security?!?!? just crap on the elders of society, bruh!







people are being short of sight in this thread. feaking jim cramer lived in his car w/o housing and contributed to the s&p 500 while getting treatment at free clinics. More people than you realize sacrifice to contribute monthly to the market and will forgo luxuries for a better tomorrow. The fact people try to pass off owning stocks as a rich man's game is problematic....some people just have longer vision.

Football players get paid so much because their high level skills are so scarce. Danger of the game is an insignificant factor in their paychecks. And regardless, they get taxed as much as anyone.

Specifically talking about hedge fund people, all their income comes from investment. It's not being double taxed so much as half taxed. The double taxation argument, as an aside, is very weak unless you find everything but income taxes(or sales or whatever tax type you favor as the original) to be a double taxation. And to take the argument to its logical conclusion, why not tax hedge fund managers at 0%?

And stocks are a rich man's game. Yeah there are anecdotes about the little guy making a killing on penny stocks, but that's all that is. By their very nature stocks are a playground of the upper and upper middle classes. Kindly explain how a system based upon having expendable capital and ruled by overly complex jargon isn't a system for the rich?

And back to the risk argument, why would fiscal risk trump physical risk so far as taxation? If fiscal risk plays a factor in how hedge fund managers are taxed, why would a deep sea fishermen be expected to pay the same rate as an insurance salesman?

Though frankly I think that valuing risks faced by profits over that of those faced by people is perfectly in line with our neoliberal religion.
 

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This dude is an idiot cant believe the people who take him seriously.

This is the only reason why I don't really fear trump becoming president, because when it comes time for actual debates and finding out what dude knows, he's going to get embarrassed.

The only reason the other candidates haven't pounced on this is en masse because his Cult of Personality is so strong right now that it would damage them to attack him.
 
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