Don Lemon's open letter to Russell Simmons

[bzb]

didn't someone debunk this proclamation, a few months back. I remember it was one of the last few threads gundumb was showing out in

i didn't see that thread, but it wouldn't be accurate for atlanta/fulton. in fact, portions of areas in north fulton have incorporated to make sure their wealth stays where it's generated. i don't really blame them, but it is a method they use to make the wealth centers even more concentrated.

 

[Blackking]

I'm sure about 45 posters have said this..... but I'm sure he recited this in front of his white husband at night before he decided to go on air with it.


I don't disagree with the premise of his shyt - i guess it was individual responsibility.

but 2 things.

He missed a small detail in the sagging story - lol, but it's him so I can see why he left that out.

He didn't really need to go at Russell, nothing he said is different than what older blacks say in mass.-- it's just that c00ns and white people want everyone to believe that 100% of blacks cosign nothing but ignorant shyt. Then they say look at rap when it's controlled and purchased by white people.

 

[Blackking]

also, I agree with most of what @Insensitive as stated.

but russell simmons isn't really for us, but we don't someone who is

literally on the white man's dikk.

to tell us that.


salute that that dude insensitve

 

[theworldismine13]

brazil did benefit from the slave trade just like the us did. they actually have always had a relatively good economy. and where do you think the capital (funding) came from for these countries to establish and grow their wealth? yep, slave labor. in the us, even though the south was primarily the slave labor area many northern corporations and businessmen invested in plantations and/or profited heavily from the cheap price of goods provided by free slave labor. you should do the knowledge on slave economics because it is the root of prosperity in america and most countries where they had successful long term slave trade.

i didnt say brazil or the us didn't benefit from the slave trade, i said they did, and i also said the us owes the slaves

but brazil had way more slaves than the US, the brazilian economy was horrible and backwards for almost the entire 20th century, its nowhere even close to the american economy, never has been, only recently has it begun to show any significance and yet their slave population was way larger than the US

on top of that when you look at the top nations in the world economically you do not see pattern of slave trading, so my point isnt that slave trading didnt build the us economy, my point is that it isnt the root cause

the reason i make that distinction is that its important to understand why one slave economy like brazil never really developed until recently and the other slave economy developed into a super power
, its not to downplay the role of slavery its to understand how countries develop and factors that influence development

im asserting that the reason the us developed faster than brazil is because the us focused on capitalism and economic rights and it was more educated and when you look at the top economies in the world, they almost all have the same pattern, thats the thing that im tryna get at, its not trying to downplay slavery

you're also off about the principles that made america rich and prosperous vs countries in asia or africa. very different histories, political, economic and social structures.

hmm im not saying vs asia, im saying the opposite, im saying china, tawian, korea and japan are all economic powerhouses because of the same principles that made the us powerhouses

and im saying that black people here in the us and countries in africa need to follow those same paths

and i stand by my comment about not putting much value in people who talk down to me about "our problems" but can't relate to or won't acknowledge the issues people in our community go through. a rich elitist gay black man telling me everything will be ok if i pull up my pants and stop using the n word? foh

ok, then dont

the rest of what you're saying is scattered between partially agreeing or harping on what you think is a focus on white agenda. naw, i don't see it as white agenda. i see it as an agenda that focuses on blacks working to establish more balance in the areas important to us. there's only a finite number of resources in all of this. we will have to make it shift from one area to another when we become more prosperous.

you can call your ideas whatever you want but my description is plainly accurate, you plan is really a plan that is a list of what white people need to do. how is that not a white agenda?

the black agenda is what black people need to do, aside from demanding that white people do the things in the list, what is it that black people need to do?

i dont want to put words in your mouth but from what i see your "black agenda" is that we need go and demand that white people do these things

good luck with that

i think the black agenda is fighting for individual rights and economic rights, but that whole wealth sharing thing is bogus

there's only a finite number of resources in all of this.

this statement is exactly why i think your "white agenda" is bogus and this statement is part of the unconscious premise that i was referring to, its more evidence that you do not believe that black people can develop without white people

i disagree with this statement 100000000%, there is not a finite number of resources, and black people do not need white people to develop, you only think that because you are at an intellectual dead end and you see the "white agenda" as the only solution

i disagree, the way to develop south atlanta, oakland, memphis or detroit or any other black city or area is the same way any other top city or nation develops, its by focusing on education and capitalism

 

[theworldismine13]

Then they say look at rap when it's controlled and purchased by white people.

i thought rap represented black youth culture, apparently you hate black youth culture

 

[Blackking]

the art of rap.. most of the subject matter and the story of most rappers represent aspects of black culture....

the way the industry limits the scope and content -of the mainstream is manipulative. It only has minimal effect - and only has that lil effect because of education, poverty, wealth gaps, and a millions other social issues that would happen w/o rap. Plus the industry is designed to appeal to white kids and their parents buying power.

The core elements of rap and hip hop still exist... it's just that the mainstream pushes certain ideas over others. Most rappers without solid fanbases have to play along to get noticed. But just because Trinidad James exist doesn't mean we should throw Nas and Common in the trash. idc that white kids buy into that trash.... or if theirs a million white fans at a tech nine concert. Fabalous, JAdakiss, Nas, and Talib Kwali can appeal to different parts of most younger black guys.... It's not like Jayz is the reason nikkas wanna sell dope - so idc about him putting his experiences out there either... The music doesn't make people. idk anyone who isn't ignorant that is made ignorant by rap --- or any ignorant nikka that is doing ignorant shyt because of rap.

I already said before.. music in early 2000's described and set treads for shyt that I saw everyday growing up, so it's not like it created those circumstances. culture is the egg, music is the chicken.... some chicken is organic some is genetically modified - but that's doesn't mean we should stop eating chicken all together and go around killing off chicken farms n shyt.

 

[theworldismine13]

the art of rap.. most of the subject matter and the story of most rappers represent aspects of black culture....

the way the industry limits the scope and content -of the mainstream is manipulative. It only has minimal effect - and only has that lil effect because of education, poverty, wealth gaps, and a millions other social issues that would happen w/o rap. Plus the industry is designed to appeal to white kids and their parents buying power.

The core elements of rap and hip hop still exist... it's just that the mainstream pushes certain ideas over others. Most rappers without solid fanbases have to play along to get noticed. But just because Trinidad James exist doesn't mean we should throw Nas and Common in the trash. idc that white kids buy into that trash.... or if theirs a million white fans at a tech nine concert. Fabalous, JAdakiss, Nas, and Talib Kwali can appeal to different parts of most younger black guys.... It's not like Jayz is the reason nikkas wanna sell dope - so idc about him putting his experiences out there either... The music doesn't make people. idk anyone who isn't ignorant that is made ignorant by rap --- or any ignorant nikka that is doing ignorant shyt because of rap.

I already said before.. music in early 2000's described and set treads for shyt that I saw everyday growing up, so it's not like it created those circumstances. culture is the egg, music is the chicken.... some chicken is organic some is genetically modified - but that's doesn't mean we should stop eating chicken all together and go around killing off chicken farms n shyt.

im glad we agree that corporate rap music is garbage

 

[Serious]

CNN’s Don Lemon on ‘Stop and Frisk’: ‘Would You Rather Be Politically Correct or Safe and Alive?’

During his radio commentary on Tuesday, CNN anchor Don Lemon partially defended the controversial NYPD policy of “stop-and-frisk,” asking its critics whether they’d rather put “political correctness” above safety.
Lemon branded today’s New York mayoral election as “one of the most important races in the world” because it could mean the elimination of the controversial police procedure. He added that the policy should normally be called “stop-question-and-frisk,” but the “question” part often gets left out.

“f you question many people in New York City, even some black and Hispanic people,” Lemon claimed, “they will tell you that on the surface they don’t really have an issue with stop-question-and-frisk. Not the idea of it, at least. Not if the controversial policy was conducted like the occasional, random airport screening.”

Lemon noted that minorities want to believe that officers would stop someone and “politiely” say, “Sir, I’m sorry, but I need to check your bag and your person,” but, he lamented, “they know that that’s not the reality of things on the street.”

“They know that in reality they will probably be ordered to put their hands up, spread their legs, or lay on the ground and be handcuffed while an officer or officers have their ways with them,” the CNN host said, “touching them wherever they’d like or handling them however they’d like.”

Lemon asserted that there are many among the minority community who believe “in theory” that “we’d rather be inconvenienced by being stopped by police than shot by gun-wielding criminals on the street.” However, he said, it’s become too easy for police to become “so drunk with power that they abuse it.”

“So goes New York City, so goes the rest of the country,” he said of stop-and-frisk, adding his suggestion that if a new mayor “alters the equation of the formula that has reduced crime in New York City to its lowest in decades,” it could result in the “creeping back up” of crime rates, the reduction in tourism, and the suffering of “international consequences.” He posited that other major cities could follow suit.

“Whatever the mayor here decides will be reflected in your city, reflected in your crime rate, and in your economy,” Lemon concluded. “So the question is: would you rather be politically correct or safe and alive? That’s the real issue facing the citizens of New York and, pretty soon, ultimately you.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don...her-be-politically-correct-or-safe-and-alive/

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

This is a legit time to use the word c00n

 

[DEAD7]

CNN’s Don Lemon on ‘Stop and Frisk’: ‘Would You Rather Be Politically Correct or Safe and Alive?’

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don...her-be-politically-correct-or-safe-and-alive/