Don Lemon's open letter to Russell Simmons

[bzb]

He is looking and speaking on the "side of the card" that no one touches, or publicly speaks on. Do you think we really need more people talking about the evil of cacs?
Both sides of the card need to be talked about IMHO

i disagree that no one talks about it. but i can guarantee more people who affect the problem talk more about why minorities need to clean up their act than how they (bigots and racial opportunists) can be more open minded and reduce the prevalence of prejudice and racism.

 

[DEAD7]

i disagree that no one talks about it. but i can guarantee more people who affect the problem talk more about why minorities need to clean up their act than how they (bigots and racial opportunists) can be more open minded and reduce the prevalence of prejudice and racism.

On a platform like Dom has? Or Bill O'Rielly has? I haven't heard it...

But that's not the point. The point is both sides need to be discussed, why condemn some one discussing it?(on either side)

and what specifically was Dom wrong about?

 

[Insensitive]

He is looking and speaking on the "side of the card" that no one touches, or publicly speaks on. Do you think we really need more people talking about the evil of cacs?
Both sides of the card need to be talked about IMHO

Surely the "other side of the card" can be explored without damning generalizations that
do nothing more than reinforce long held racist beliefs.

Do you know how many racists can now conveniently say 'Well blacks celebrate thug culture...."
simply because individuals like Don Lemon and Jesse Lee Peterson are quick to
give them the token black support they need ?
Do you not see the issue here in embracing the idea that all blacks are inherently fukked
up ?

Don Lemon did black people a disservice with his inane address to the nation.
As if all blacks are a bunch of sagging pants wearing, n-word using born failures
that need a stern talking to.

It's fukking absurd that there are black people who not only take this as
serious critique but apparently don't see anything wrong with supporting the talking
points of racists across the country.

You even have this clown closing out his fukking news segment using Obama's speech as a
way to reinforce the idea that "Blacks face no issues in 2013, you're just holding yourselves back !".
Our voices get shut down on the national stage while fools fukking applaud.

 

[Will2x]

I can't listen to someone who's literally on the white man's dikk.

 

[Serious]

I feel where don is coming from. I don't think saggin or the use of the n word will make that much of a difference I think the most important thang is for black ppl to remove the hate from their hearts and take some responsibility. Fix the attitudes.

I expect several ppl to blame the white man in this thread.

What hate?

 

[Serious]

don is looking at only one side of the card.

it's like saying women shouldn't have premarital sex if they don't want kids before marriage. well what about the men who aren't using condoms, they have to take responsibility too.

so, yes i completely agree we need to take responsibility for our own situations and our futures. at the same time even the people doing that still have to navigate a system that's slanted against minorities. it's disengenuous to ignore that fact while acknowledging the other.

yeah breh, Don comes off like a typical cornball "brutha".

Essentially it's like ignoring the elephant in the room. Even "educated" black folks are still met with oppression and have to face double standards...

 

[Serious]

i disagree that no one talks about it. but i can guarantee more people who affect the problem talk more about why minorities need to clean up their act than how they (bigots and racial opportunists) can be more open minded and reduce the prevalence of prejudice and racism.

Yeah man I was blown away from all this blatant discrimination and bully towards african americans during this game show.



CBS tried to edit many of these incidents out of the regularly programmed show, but thanks to a 24/7 live feed many instances were recorded and logged. Over 5 players have lost their jobs while taping of the show, but it clearly shows the hidden face of prejudice attitudes in America. Not to mention the African Americans didn't dare make any negative remarks about another race. (double standard here folks)

 

[DEAD7]

Surely the "other side of the card" can be explored without damning generalizations that
do nothing more than reinforce long held racist beliefs.

Do you know how many racists can now conveniently say 'Well blacks celebrate thug culture...."
simply because individuals like Don Lemon and Jesse Lee Peterson are quick to
give them the token black support they need ?
1- They don't need his support(obviously since he was just echoing a white person)
2- Its true rap does glorify drug dealing. I dont see what so hard to accept about this?
I think we do more harm to our communities trying to pretend this isnt the case?
Does acknowledging that fact make me a uncle tom/c00n?


Do you not see the issue here in embracing the idea that all blacks are inherently fukked
up ?
i haven't heard noe thrown any support to the idea that black people are _inhernetly_ f*cked up.
For the record, I reject that notion completely.

Don Lemon did black people a disservice with his inane address to the nation.
As if all blacks are a bunch of sagging pants wearing, n-word using born failures
that need a stern talking to.

he didn't make it a generalization and several times stated "if this doesn't apply to you, i'm not talking to you"...
Why does this go ignored?


It's fukking absurd that there are black people who not only take this as
serious critique but apparently don't see anything wrong with supporting the talking
points of racists across the country.
before calling it absurd, you must explain how he is wrong, How we dont embrace drug dealing? how we don't have a problem with single parent homes? and how we dont need to stop shytting where we eat...
Saying "quit c00ning", "thats absurd" or "look at this cac lover" are not counter arguments, nor do they help anyone, in fact they do harm.


You even have this clown closing out his fukking news segment using Obama's speech as a
way to reinforce the idea that "Blacks face no issues in 2013, you're just holding yourselves back !".
Our voices get shut down on the national stage while fools fukking applaud.
Shut down?
The president is black, the head of the justice dept. is black and you call black voices shut down?
Their "symbolism" doesn't mean there isn't an issue or its all good, but to say blacks are shut down, while they are occupying the highest positions in the country is a bit much.

Let me ask this to get a clear idea of where you are coming from, what is it you want to see happen exactly?

 

[theworldismine13]

Yeah man I was blown away from all this blatant discrimination and bully towards african americans during this game show.



CBS tried to edit many of these incidents out of the regularly programmed show, but thanks to a 24/7 live feed many instances were recorded and logged. Over 5 players have lost their jobs while taping of the show, but it clearly shows the hidden face of prejudice attitudes in America. Not to mention the African Americans didn't dare make any negative remarks about another race. (double standard here folks)

to be honest, i think that's interesting and informative but i really dont give a fuk, i think white people have the right to be racist and to not like black people

i roll with don lemon because i think the future of black people rests with black people, white people should continue doing whatever it is they have been doing

 

[bzb]

On a platform like Dom has? Or Bill O'Rielly has? I haven't heard it...

But that's not the point. The point is both sides need to be discussed, why condemn some one discussing it?(on either side)

and what specifically was Dom wrong about?

didn't say he was wrong. i said it's disingenuous to discuss one side of the issue without acknowledging the other. but maybe i'm giving him too much credit. even though he's black and gay (a double whammy for most) i'm highly doubtful he's in touch with much of his racial identity. he probably identifies as gay elitist which puts him in a whole other demographic. and i'm sure he's been coddled because of it his entire adult life. that would also preclude him from fraternizing with a lot of blacks who could give him a perspective that he most likely hasn't had. and none of that is a knock on his sexuality, rather how his sexuality and class identification may have kept him from being more in touch with the racial issues the black community at large faces.

then again he could be going on like he is on purpose because he likes that pat on the butt from the networks.

all the while they sitting back on some and he's flattered by it.

 

[bzb]

i roll with don lemon because i think the future of black people rests with black people, white people should continue doing whatever it is they have been doing

do you really believe don identifies with the black struggle and black agenda? i don't get the impression he does. personally i think he might even be a little jaded with the black community.

 

[theworldismine13]

didn't say he was wrong. i said it's disingenuous to discuss one side of the issue without acknowledging the other. but maybe i'm giving him too much credit. even though he's black and gay (a double whammy for most) i'm highly doubtful he's in touch with much of his racial identity. he probably identifies as gay elitist which puts him in a whole other demographic. and i'm sure he's been coddled because of it his entire adult life. that would also preclude him from fraternizing with a lot of blacks who could give him a perspective that he most likely hasn't had. and none of that is a knock on his sexuality, rather how his sexuality and class identification may have kept him from being more in touch with the racial issues the black community at large faces.

then again he could be going on like he is on purpose because he likes that pat on the butt from the networks.

all the while they sitting back on some and he's flattered by it.

this post has no substance, you might as well have said he's a c00n and left it at that since your post is just an elaboration of personal attacks and questioning his blackness

so do you think russell simmons is in touch with racial identity? are people that sag their pants and say nikka in touch with their racial identity? what is the criteria you use to know whether somebody is in touch with their racial identity?

 

[theworldismine13]

do you really believe don identifies with the black struggle and black agenda? i don't get the impression he does. personally i think he might even be a little jaded with the black community.

if the black struggle and black agenda means begging white people to not be racist, i dont identify with the black struggle and black agenda either

 

[kermit da hustla]

On a platform like Dom has? Or Bill O'Rielly has? I haven't heard it...

But that's not the point. The point is both sides need to be discussed, why condemn some one discussing it?(on either side)

and what specifically was Dom wrong about?

what side is don discussing? the side that ignores the origins of the problems exhibited in the black community? the side that ignores white america's privileged role in undermining black progress? the side that ignores just who is at fault for the high incarceration rates of black men? the side that ignores who is at fault for the poverty lying at the heart of wayward black teens in our inner cities? the side that ignores the lack of funding in school systems that don't adequately prepare our black boys and girls for productive futures in this society?

the only side don lemon is concerned with is the backside his white boyfriend gives him shots to.

 

[DEAD7]

didn't say he was wrong. i said it's disingenuous to discuss one side of the issue without acknowledging the other. but maybe i'm giving him too much credit. even though he's black and gay (a double whammy for most) i'm highly doubtful he's in touch with much of his racial identity. he probably identifies as gay elitist which puts him in a whole other demographic. and i'm sure he's been coddled because of it his entire adult life. that would also preclude him from fraternizing with a lot of blacks who could give him a perspective that he most likely hasn't had. and none of that is a knock on his sexuality, rather how his sexuality and class identification may have kept him from being more in touch with the racial issues the black community at large faces.

then again he could be going on like he is on purpose because he likes that pat on the butt from the networks.

all the while they sitting back on some and he's flattered by it.

I dont think any of us here are in a position to make assertions about Don as a person, or his life... nor should we, since it comes across as conceding the argument.