Dominicans Lynching Haitians in 2015

jwonder

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I've been to D.R. and I have Haitian and Dominican friends. I can speak from experience. I have Dominican Friends just as dark as me that don't view themselves as Black. Being "Black" has been demonized in a lot of countries, not everywhere cause honestly most of the world is darker skinned. But in D.R. because of it and Haiti being on the same island there obviously tensions when they would both be served better if they came together so both countries could thrive. But Some Dominicans are in denial. Most of the country clearly has African ancestry but because they speak Spanish they think there's no way they can be Black yet the Spanish have Black Anstry cause of the Moors. The Birth Citizenship law is B.S., 1929? are they kidding?. This is a sad story, again I got love for Haiti and D.R. cause of close friends but this is sad what they are doing in D.R. Like when I went to Santo Domingo, most of the Dominicans I saw were just as dark as me. Yes there were lightskinned ones or fair skin but they honestly looked Lightskinned Black then White. Shoot a LOT of Dominican males cut there hair like Black Males too.
I'm the same with DR friends. The black ones don't say they are black either. shyt I don't even consider Haitians black. When someone says they are black, I'm automatically thinking Black American. I don't speak spanish or creole so I'm like when they say they are not black. shyt doesn't bother me at all. :yeshrug:
 

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I'm the same with DR friends. The black ones don't say they are black either. shyt I don't even consider Haitians black. When someone says they are black, I'm automatically thinking Black American. I don't speak spanish or creole so I'm like when they say they are not black. shyt doesn't bother me at all. :yeshrug:


It's weird cause your right. I have lightskin Haitian friends that don't view themselves as "Black" either, they say, "I'm Haitian". Like "Haitian" or "Dominican" is a color. They may not be Culturally Black, I get that. "Black American" Culture is very unique in the world. But when they look in the mirror, them negros are Black, I don't care what they say. One of Haitian boys is lightskinned but his Dad is just as dark as me, lol.
 

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"be rayciss"?... You sound like a goddamn st0rmfr0nt or chimpout member with that shyt b...

That's how most Dominicans sound. They love appropriating African American slang and urban culture but think of themselves as superior to blacks. One has to wounder why they flock to black-centered sites like theColi? Why doesn't he go to a Latin site?
 

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@Arianne Martell posted the story in another thread about how they said that it was other haitians that lynched this dude.

is there a chance that it was racist self hate projecting c00n dominicans that did this? absolutely.

but i found this interesting

this is from the United Nations human rights website

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/LynchingInHaiti.aspx


An end to mob justice in Haiti

On January 24 2013, a man was stoned to death in Trianon, Mirebalais, north-east of the Haitian capital, Port-au-Prince. According to preliminary information received by the Human Rights Section of the UN Stabilization Mission in Haiti (MINUSTAH)/ Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, the victim had been caught red-handed stealing a goat and a chicken.

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According to statistics from the UN Police in Haiti (UNPOL), lynching is widespread in that country and the number of known cases increased from 90 in 2009 to 121 in 2012. However, as noted by the Secretary-General of the Lawyers' Committee for the Respect of Individual Liberties (CARLI), Renan Hedouville, it is a human rights violation and it also infringes on the presumption of innocence and the right to a just, fair and impartial trial.

"Lynching contravenes human rights, particularly the right to life guaranteed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in its Article 3," said the lawyer. For Hedouville, this phenomenon contributes to more violence in Haiti and creates psychosis and a climate of fear within society.

The perpetrators of lynching act on suspicion of murder, witchcraft, theft, but also kidnapping and other acts of banditry. In many cases, the victims are killed for having been caught committing petty theft, stealing food or livestock; or sometimes just because they are unknown to the area and are suspected of being ill-intentioned.

Lynching is perpetrated by ordinary citizens who are rarely brought to justice or even questioned by the police although the Haitian law equates lynching to murder, which is punishable by life imprisonment or forced labour.

The phenomenon of lynching is often seen as resulting from the failures of the justice system. The lack of access to justice and the population’s mistrust in the judiciary leads to a sense of impunity. For the Executive Secretary of the Platform of Haitian Human Rights Organizations (POHDH), Antonal Mortimé, it is that mistrust which in turn fosters ‘popular acts of vengeance’.

The Haitian government is responsible for guaranteeing the right to life for all citizens, even when suspected of having committed an offense. The Haitian government thus has a legal obligation to prevent and punish cases of lynching.

To raise awareness of the issue among people in the most remote areas and involve the local authorities to better respond to the phenomenon of lynching, a series of activities have been taking place across the country at the initiative of the Human Rights Section of MINUSTAH. A number of radio and TV programmes, as well as printed material in Creole were developed to target the regions most affected. Furthermore, MINUSTAH has reinforced the capacity of some 5500 members of the National Police and the judiciary since 2011.

Monthéliard Louinord, of the Human Rights Section of MINUSTAH based in the Artibonite, Haiti’s largest Department, called for the need to respect people’s fundamental human rights. "The right to life is the most important of all. Without it, the other rights have no raison d’être," he says. Louinord encouraged participants in various workshops to file complaints instead of taking the law into their own hands. "Mob justice is one of the worst practices in any democratic society. We must mobilize to fight this scourge."

Since January 2013, MINUSTAH-FM has been broadcasting a radio segment on lynching in Haiti. The segment was also broacast on private radio stations in the six departments where lynching is the most problematic: in the West, South, South-East, Grande Anse, Centre and North. The anti-lynching campaign is a collaborative effort between the UN Human Rights Office and the Communications and Public Information Office of MINUSTAH. In February, it dedicated one of its “Dossiers du mois” (Monthly Reports) to lynching. A story was also published in the Haitian newspaper Le Matin, and TV and radio programmes were also broadcast on national TV.


so its not entirely out of the realm of possibility that this was done by fellow haitians.

idk tho it could have been dominicans just pointing that out
 

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That's how most Dominicans sound. They love appropriating African American slang and urban culture but think of themselves as superior to blacks. One has to wounder why they flock to black-centered sites like theColi? Why doesn't he go to a Latin site?

to be fair those of us that flock to sites like these do so because we grew up in urban culture. i grew up in harlem and if u were to hear me speak without looking at me u would think i was black. i grew up on hip hop even tho i dont listen to it anymore and i relate to other urban people(black, PR, even white boys from the hood) more than i do my own cousins who got less than 5 years in the US.

that particular poster tho he dont speak for us. he's a little fukkboy and im pretty sure he really is a racist because he told me to stop "sucking black dikk" because i said i grew up in the hood.
 

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It's weird cause your right. I have lightskin Haitian friends that don't view themselves as "Black" either, they say, "I'm Haitian". Like "Haitian" or "Dominican" is a color. They may not be Culturally Black, I get that. "Black American" Culture is very unique in the world. But when they look in the mirror, them negros are Black, I don't care what they say. One of Haitian boys is lightskinned but his Dad is just as dark as me, lol.
Yeah I'm thinking they are thinking like me. They know they are black as color, but not culturally which is true.
 

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Why do Haitians bother even going to the DR is beyond me.

For work. The Dominican Republic has a stronger economy while still being poor relative to Haiti. Also a lot of Haitian children are kidnapped and forced to work as domestics in Haiti. After the earthquake there was a lot of human trafficking from Haiti to the DR.
 

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Whether we "be rayciss" or not has nothing to do with this incident. Are all the Africans who are killing each in the motherland racist also? Since we're all nothing but black folks, just think of us as like two different warring African nations. Nah forget it, I can't expect a people without a country to understand the concept of national pride.
Wow. You really need to get off your pretentious horse. I bet you don't live in that country to show your national pride. :camby:
 

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Let's be real, a quadroon usually is not going to see himself as the same as a blue black african. Most Haitians are mostly african in appearance and most Dominicans, especially those from Santiago are quadroons and Octoroons. Think of things this way; in New Orleans Creoles have traditionally look down on darkskinned blacks. Many even owned slaves and even today Creoles are notorious for there colorism. Just because you have "black blood" doesnt mean to see solidarity with or even like black people. Blacks really need get over this idea of all inclusiveness .

Otherwise known as wishful thinking.
 

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to be fair those of us that flock to sites like these do so because we grew up in urban culture. i grew up in harlem and if u were to hear me speak without looking at me u would think i was black. i grew up on hip hop even tho i dont listen to it anymore and i relate to other urban people(black, PR, even white boys from the hood) more than i do my own cousins who got less than 5 years in the US.

that particular poster tho he dont speak for us. he's a little fukkboy and im pretty sure he really is a racist because he told me to stop "sucking black dikk" because i said i grew up in the hood.
I was going to point that out. I never really had problems with Dominicans on the racist shyt. You have idiots in every race. shyt we got Barkley and Clarence Thomas.
 

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In all honesty not many people like Haitians. Its sad I know maybe Haiti can become more liveable place somehow.

Many people don't like blacks. Its sad but man blacks can become more liveable people somehow.

Blame the victims breh. If the DR was next door to some white EE shyt hole they would treat those white folks like that.
 

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Residents of the Dominican Republic dressed as KKK members in 2014 during the Dominican Carnival.


The Dominican Republic's Ministry of Culture subsequently ratified those individuals' collective action by stating: "Every group is free to choose their themes, whether using elements of the Dominican identity or universal culture in their costumes."
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