DOJ Secretly Obtains Months Of AP Phone Records; AP Condemns 'Unprecedented Intrusion

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So it takes the AP "getting that work" for TUH and 88M3 to say something don't smell right :laugh:..............

Yet, when some alternative media site offers this basic story line/information years earlier its looney toon aluminum foilism........... :hilarious:

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When did I say something smelled right? BEcause I don't believe in government created earthquake causing machine weapon? Because I don't believe that EVERYTHING that happens is the work of government false flag?

I'll pass on that, thank you.
 

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I ask on what grounds because of the following sentences:

"...disclose information about AP's activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know," Pruitt said."

the no conceivable right to know part goes out the bushes once....

...U.S. officials have previously said in public testimony that the U.S. attorney in Washington is conducting a criminal investigation into who may have provided information contained in a May 7, 2012, AP story about a foiled terror plot. The story disclosed details of a CIA operation in Yemen that stopped an al-Qaida plot in the spring of 2012 to detonate a bomb on an airplane bound for the United States.

no? :whistle: or am I reaching :patrice:

you're the protect our rights expert
 

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I ask on what grounds because of the following sentences:



the no conceivable right to know part goes out the bushes once....



no? :whistle: or am I reaching :patrice:

you're the protect our rights expert

Im not an expert on anything. I'm just a man with an opinion.

The press should be protected from this. If someone in the government leaked info, the government has a right to prosecute, but I think the rights of the press should be protected, and the Supreme Court has usually come down on the side of the press in these matters.

Again, from that case:

The question before the court was whether the constitutional freedom of the press, guaranteed by the First Amendment, was subordinate to a claimed need of the executive branch of government to maintain the secrecy of information.

Isn't seizing the AP's phone records without a warrant amount to focing the prss to reveal their sources? I'd argue it does.
 

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Im not an expert on anything. I'm just a man with an opinion.

The press should be protected from this. If someone in the government leaked info, the government has a right to prosecute, but I think the rights of the press should be protected, and the Supreme Court has usually come down on the side of the press in these matters.

Again, from that case:



Isn't seizing the AP's phone records without a warrant amount to focing the prss to reveal their sources? I'd argue it does.

From the case you cited:

The First Amendment of the Constitution tolerates no prior judicial restraints of the press predicated upon surmise or conjecture that untoward consequences may result. Thus, only governmental allegation and proof that publication must inevitably, directly and immediately cause the occurrence of an event kindred to imperiling the safety of a transport already at sea can support the issuance of an interim restraining order. Unless and until the Government has clearly made its case, the First Amendment of the Constitution commands that no injunction be issued.

The responsibility must be where the power is. The Executive must have the large duty to determine and preserve the degree of internal security necessary to exercise its power effectively. The Executive is correct with respect to some of the documents here, but disclosure of any of them will not result in irreparable danger to the public.

The United States has not met the very heavy burden, which it must meet to warrant an injunction against publication in these cases.
The ultimate issue in this case is whether this Court or the Congress has the power to make this law. It is plain that Congress has refused to grant the authority the Government seeks from this Court.

I think the criminal investigation covers the first section.

I think the Patriot act takes care of the second.
 

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From the case you cited:



I think the criminal investigation covers the first section.

I think the Patriot act takes care of the second.



I'm sorry friend, how the hell does a criminal investigation for a leak...

The government would not say why it sought the records. U.S. officials have previously said in public testimony that the U.S. attorney in Washington is conducting a criminal investigation into who may have provided information contained in a May 7, 2012, AP story about a foiled terror plot. The story disclosed details of a CIA operation in Yemen that stopped an al-Qaida plot in the spring of 2012 to detonate a bomb on an airplane bound for the United States.

....have to do with what you cited friend? There was NO danger. The plot was already foiled. This was about secrecy and the government lying.

Also, please don't quote the PATRIOT Act ever again. That thing is is unconstitutional through and through IMO.
 

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I'm sorry friend, how the hell does a criminal investigation for a leak...



....have to do with what you cited friend? There was NO danger. The plot was already foiled. This was about secrecy and the government lying.

Also, please don't quote the PATRIOT Act ever again. That thing is is unconstitutional through and through IMO.

I'm simply arguing by the rules established and having a non feelings caught dialogue with you.

You outright called for an impeachment. And I asked on what grounds.

I'm simply explaining to you, that they're actually well within the law to do what they're doing. The only thing that destroys their case is the validity of the criminal investigation. And even that is probably backed up by the Patriot Act.

And as much as you and I hate that document, its a signed law thats backed by Congress and ignored by the majority of Americans. At this point, the only thing I can do is point out liberal hypocrisy, I can't actually do anything about it.
 

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Wow friend. I can tell you're really outraged over this. :skip:

I'm surprised that with your limited cognitive ability you came up with even this weak attempt at sarcasm, especially considering your own lukewarm responses to the majority of injustices we talk about on this forum. Are you outraged? Or are you too busy blaming rape victims?
 

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I'm sorry friend, how the hell does a criminal investigation for a leak...
....have to do with what you cited friend? There was NO danger. The plot was already foiled. This was about secrecy and the government lying.

Also, please don't quote the PATRIOT Act ever again. That thing is is unconstitutional through and through IMO.


So you're implying you know more than John Brennan?
 

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I thought this had to deal with the press getting information about a current CIA operation and they were going to release the story. Typical press fukkery about to get someone killed. The Republicans wanted the DOD to get to the bottom of the CIA story leak and they took those fukkers phone transcripts. But honestly...fukk the American press. Over the pass decade twitter and TMZ is more reliable than the Mainstream news. If you want old people's news just go to these clowns. I could care less if they get their privacy invaded. LOL...the press....GTFOH!!!
 
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