This Hunter story isn't finished and I predict more people will fall when they start trying to follow the money.
I don't think Biden will be impeached but I think indictments of many others is possible.
DOJ AG Merrick Garland appoints David Weiss as Special Counsel in Hunter Biden probe
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I don't think Biden will be impeached but I think indictments of many others is possible.
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I’m going to need you to elaborate with sources a lot more people will fall when they start trying to follow the money:
1) specifically, what people do you think are going down
2) why you think they’re going to go down/connection to Hunter Biden
3) Connection to Joe Biden
4) Your source making the connection
I’m trying to engage in good faith, but I can’t really do that w/ vague speculation that somethings gonna happen when we follow the money.
And for comparison’s sake, if we look any of the Trump indictments, we can find legal analysis prior to the indictments outlining the evidence. I want to see similar things with detail about the Hunter money trail.
The Tax charges are not going to just go away. They're going to have to assess the source of that income and any related links or who helped him evade taxes. This isn't as easy as you think.
Just think for a second. S
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Na, bruh. Answer the questions posed. You can’t goal post move like that. I asked you to lay it out step-by-step, and gave you a counter example of what I was looking for.
And you’re the one who appears to think it’s easy. You made the claim, I asked you to back your claim up with evidence and citations and you came back with basically trust me.
So here’s my compromise to you and the statement I need you to make. “Although I have absolutely no evidence to support my conclusion, I think that that the tax inquiry into Hunter Biden will negatively implicate Joe Biden.” And by implicate I mean direct involvement in Joe’s grown son not paying taxes.
I’ll happily reconsider my position if you provide me with some links to your sources supporting the statements you made.
Edit: also not paying taxes is pretty easy. You either don’t file your taxes, or you under report income, or claim fake business expenses. Random guy at Liberty Tax can do that.
It's bad enough he got charged on the taxes. Republicans will want to know how the tax scheme worked via their shambolic impeachment process.
Look, don't be mad at me.
Hunter will have to account for that money and it's not going to be pretty.
I see you're playing dumb.
T’Challa’s Heir
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Oh, another response with no links, citations or evidence to support your claims. If you don’t have the evidence to support your claims, it’s ok, just admit you’re going off a hunch.
And how are you acting like rich people don’t routinely cheat/under report/flat out don’t pay their taxes regularly?
Or to phrase this differently, what evidence do you have that this isn’t routine rich person tax bullshyt, and is instead some larger nefarious part of a larger criminal scheme? Furthermore, how do you connect this to Biden’s presidency, when Biden was a private citizen during the commission of the crimes?
Again, give me a link some evidence. You’re making the claim. Calling me dumb doesn’t relieve you of your burden to substantiate Your claims
Why does the number of charges keep increasing? Why do plea deals keep falling apart?
You said this wouldn't go this far.
It.
Keeps.
Going.
Look, my only hope is that it doesn't touch POTUS Biden in any meaningful way, but this situation is accelerating in one direction.
T’Challa’s Heir
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Find me the quote where I said it wouldn’t go this far. I’ve been consistent on saying this ain’t got shyt to do with anything Joe Biden did. And until I see evidence of Joe Biden doing something, I’m sticking with that.
The plea deal fell apart because both sides thought they were getting over on the other and didn’t discuss the no further charges provision of the plea agreement. Traditionally, when a federal defendant enters into a plea agreement, they are expressly clear on if additional charges can be brought.
And with respect to more charges. The current gun charges all stem from the core set of facts that he was a drug user with a gun. Under the federal sentencing guidelines, they’ll be scored together as a single event, and his sentence will still be the same. And given his lack of criminal history, it’s going to be a very light sentence.
I’m talking about the tax charges.
T’Challa’s Heir
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Show me my quote of saying it wouldn’t go this far. Show me the quote where I said they wouldn’t bring charges against Hunter Biden.
And on that note, have they actually filed Tax charges against Hunter Biden yet?
I mean, let's not get too crazy here. I'm a big fan of Biden.
But FDR and LBJ shifted the national landscape relative to their eras in ways that Biden has barely touched.
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Raskin just recently said they've spent 7 months in the oversight committee letting the GOP bore everyone to death with this, yet they still don't have any evidence of Joe doing anything wrong.
They have essentially used Hunter being a clout chaser in an attempt to get to Joe and after years of investigation, months in congressional oversight, and a special counsel - the only charges they can produce are federal gun charges and failure to pay taxes.
They have essentially used Hunter being a clout chaser in an attempt to get to Joe and after years of investigation, months in congressional oversight, and a special counsel - the only charges they can produce are federal gun charges and failure to pay taxes.
Fox News Silent on Bogus Hunter Biden Witness It Hyped Constantly
Alexander Smirnov was a mainstay of coverage about the supposed “Biden Crime Family,” but his arrest for lying to Feds drew crickets.
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Fox News Silent on Bogus Hunter Biden Witness It Hyped Constantly
By Matt Stieb, Intelligencer staff writer
Photo: Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images
When Russian businessman Alexander Smirnov landed at the Las Vegas airport on Valentine’s Day, the FBI was waiting for him. Since 2010, he had worked with the agency as an informant, providing intel on what the Feds described as “various criminal investigations” — the most infamous of which was the special-counsel inquiry into Hunter Biden’s business dealings abroad. Smirnov claimed to have explosive information revealing that Joe Biden had taken a cut of his son’s considerable payments as a consultant in exchange for influencing an investigation in Ukraine. But federal prosecutors say Smirnov strayed from the truth: On Thursday, they charged him with making false statements and obstructing the yearslong investigation of the president’s son.
Frequent viewers of conservative media are well acquainted with Smirnov. Fox News hosts like Sean Hannity have said that his allegations are key to what they describe as the “Biden crime family” — the narrative that Hunter Biden accepted millions of dollars in bribes from the energy company Burisma to give to his father in exchange for then-VP Biden making a Ukrainian investigation into Burisma go away. According to the watchdog group Media Matters, Hannity alone featured 85 segments in 2023 on the allegations. (Republican politicians also trusted the source: Last July, Representative James Comer and Senator Chuck Grassley released an FBI record detailing the unsubstantiated allegations, describing Smirnov as a “trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme.”)
Fox News viewers have heard plenty about the lesser charges Hunter Biden is facing, including possession of a firearm as a drug user and tax evasion. But after prosecutors provided evidence that the corruption allegation was false, there was no mention of the story on Hannity on Thursday — or anywhere in Fox News’s prime-time programming, for that matter. (Chuck Grassley’s office has also stood by his public release of the unsubstantiated allegations.)
In the 37-page indictment, prosecutors state that Smirnov lied about his claims of Joe Biden’s criminal activity. The indictment states that, in June 2020, Smirnov told his FBI handlers that he had two meetings in 2015 in which Burisma executives told him that they hired Hunter Biden as a consultant to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” Smirnov claimed that Burisma paid Hunter Biden $10 million for his trouble.
But prosecutors state that Smirnov never provided any evidence for this explosive allegation. A meeting Smirnov described taking place in 2015 in which he said he first heard about Biden-related corruption never occurred: Prosecutors found that Smirnov’s first meeting with Burisma happened in 2017, after Biden had left office. “The Defendant’s story to the FBI was a fabrication,” the indictment states. “An amalgam of otherwise unremarkable business meetings and contacts that had actually occurred but at a later date than he claimed and for the purpose of pitching Burisma on [Smirnov’s] services and products, not for discussing bribes to [Joe Biden] when he was in office.”
“For months, we have warned that Republicans have built their conspiracies about Hunter and his family on lies told by people with political agendas, not facts,” Hunter Biden’s attorney Abbe Lowell said in a statement on Thursday. “We were right, and the air is out of their balloon.” Addressing reporters on Friday, Joe Biden stated that the allegations have “been an outrageous effort from the beginning.”