Does the coli still believe planes brought down the towers on 9/11?

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honestly.....all signs point to bombs facilitating the total destruction of the buildings.
You can clearly see materials beinf ejected up and outward in the collapse of both towers

Its literally not possible for a collapsing building to do that with its own downward moving kenetic energy
 

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You know, it's actually racist to be a 9/11 Truther. :sas1:

There were BIPOC, ADOS, and FBA in those buildings and they died tragically. :sas1:

Spouting conspiracy theories about their deaths is white supremacy in action. :sas2:
Nah its more racist and very disrespectful to believe the black witnesses(who worked there and knew the buildings well) who clearly state that that shyt that popped off in the basements of both buildings had nothing to do with what was happening 100+ up, are wrong
 
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ok well if you aren't bringing anything into the thread except your ignorance and arrogance then just bounce. I've probably done more research than you on this. I don't need anything to be spoon-fed but you are bringing nothing to the conversation so like I said just shut the fukk up.
Keep in mind that that poster is white

He has a vested interest in keeping the lie going

The fact that survivors, witnesses, and families of the victims have been suing the government for conspiracy for a decade+ means nothing to him because hes an agent put here to make sure black people remain ignorant to zionism/white supremacy
 

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i went back and watched loose change the other night and couldn’t stop laughing at them showing footage of people mentioning explosions. I’m like of course there are gonna be explosions with all the fire, heat and different types of electric components.
This post makes no sense at all

Why would an impact 100+ above ground cause explosions 6 floors below ground?

Be specific
 

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There’s too much evidence and “missing” evidence for me to not believe there was some assistance in both towers and the random Additional building with insurance records that wasn’t touched to Have fallen on their own.
 

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Word and Donald Rumsfeld admitted they shot down the plane in Pennsylvania on CNN but u never gonna find that clip again either
He also knew that there was something headed to the pentagon and exactly how far out it was at every instant, even after all other aircraft had been grounded. There was a clip from C Span about it but thats been completely scrubbed too
 

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You are extremely naive. I don’t know why you think that the same government that allowed slavery, segregation and genocide of Native Americans aren’t capable of staging an terrorist attack on American soil and blaming it on another country to justify war. They almost did something similar to 9/11 in the early 60’s called operation northwood and they were going to blame that on Cuba but JFK stopped the government from doing the attack.



Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia

What does any of that have to do with the point i made in that post ? :what:

Explain how blaming 9/11 on Saudis makes any sense if they orchestrated the whole thing as a reason to start a war with Iraq?

Why wouldn't they say the hijackers were from Iraq?

Do you not see how saying they faked 9/11 to go to war with Iraq makes zero sense ?


You really think they're capable of pulling off something of that magnitude but just glossed over the fact that they were gonna blame it on Saudis (an ally and business partner) and not the Country they were planning to invade ?

Its an incredibly stupid argument

General Wesley Clark on invading 7 ME countries...not the only possible reason, but part of it

2 mins


3 mins


8 mins
 

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BBC - The Editors: Part of the conspiracy?

The 9/11 conspiracy theories are pretty well known by now. The BBC addressed them earlier this month with a documentary, The Conspiracy Files, shown within the UK.

Until now, I don't think we've been accused of being part of the conspiracy. But now some websites are using news footage from BBC World on September 11th 2001 to suggest we were actively participating in some sort of attempt to manipulate the audience. As a result, we're now getting lots of emails asking us to clarify our position. So here goes:

1. We're not part of a conspiracy. Nobody told us what to say or do on September 11th. We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening.

2. In the chaos and confusion of the day, I'm quite sure we said things which turned out to be untrue or inaccurate - but at the time were based on the best information we had. We did what we always did - sourced our reports, used qualifying words like "apparently" or "it's reported" or "we're hearing" and constantly tried to check and double check the information we were receiving.

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3. Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did - like everybody else that day she was trying to make sense of what she was seeing; what she was being told; and what was being told to her by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services.

4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.

5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that. As one of the comments on You Tube says today "so the guy in the studio didn't quite know what was going on? Woah, that totally proves conspiracy... "

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https://www.bytchute.com/video/dxq6F73VHRUG/

Mystery solved :troll:
 

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9-11 Research: Missing Gold

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Precious Metals in WTC 4 Vault: Only a Fraction Recovered?
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This image is found on the PBS.org website companion for the television documentary America Rebuilds under the section Uncovering Property. The page, entitled A Treasure in Silver and Gold, describes the vault as two levels of 3,000 square feet each. See the source for the full-sized image. The page credits images to Leslie E. Robertson and Associates.
The basement of 4 World Trade Center housed vaults used to store gold and silver bullion. Published articles about precious metals recovered from the World Trade Center ruins in the aftermath of the attack mention less than $300 million worth of gold. All such reports appear to refer to a removal operation conducted in late October of 2001. On Nov. 1, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani announced that "more than $230 million" worth of gold and silver bars that had been stored in a bomb-proof vault had been recovered. A New York Times article contained:

Two Brinks trucks were at ground zero on Wednesday to start hauling away the $200 million in gold and silver that the Bank of Nova Scotia had stored in a vault under the trade center ... A team of 30 firefighters and police officers are helping to move the metals, a task that can be measured practically down to the flake but that has been rounded off at 379,036 ounces of gold and 29,942,619 ounces of silver .. 1
Reports describing the contents of the vaults before the attack suggest that nearly $1 billion in precious metals was stored in the vaults. A figure of $650 million in a National Real Estate Investor article published after the attack is apparently based on pre-attack reports.

Unknown to most people at the time, $650 million in gold and silver was being kept in a special vault four floors beneath Four World Trade Center. 2
An article in the TimesOnline gives the following rundown of precious metals that were being stored in the WTC vault belonging to Comex. 3

  • Comex metals trading - 3,800 gold bars weighing 12 tonnes and worth more than $100 million
  • Comex clients - 800,000 ounces of gold with a value of about $220 million
  • Comex clients - 102 million ounces of silver, worth $430 million
  • Bank of Nova Scotia - $200 million of gold
The TimesOnline article is not clear as to whether the $200 million in gold reported by the Bank of Nova Scotia was part of the $220 million in gold held by Comex for clients. If so, the total is $750 million; otherwise $950 million.

There appear to be no reports of precious metals discovered between November of 2001 and the completion of excavation several months later. Assuming that the above reports described the value of precious metals in the vaults before the attack, and that the $230 million mentioned by Giuliani represented the approxmiate value of metals recovered, it would seem that at least the better part of a billion dollars worth of precious metals went missing. (It is not plausible, of course, that whatever destroyed the towers vaporized gold and silver, which are dense, inert metals that are extremely unlikely to participate in chemical reactions with other materials.)


An article in The Sierra Times suggests that gold was recovered from two trucks in a tunnel under 5 World Trade Center, giving rise to suspicions that the trucks were being used to remove the gold from the vaults before the South Tower fell. 4 However, this report may have been based on an erroneous reading of other reports that describe the removal of crushed vehicles from a tunnel under 5 WTC in order to gain access to the vaults under 4 WTC to remove their contents. 5

Why is there this huge discrepancy between the value of gold and silver reported recovered, and the value reported to have been stored in the vaults? There are a number of possible explanations, from outright theft using the attack as cover, to insurance fraud. Until there is a genuine investigation that probes all the relevant facts and circumstances surrounding the attack, we can only speculate.


References

1. Below Ground Zero, Silver and Gold, New York Times, 11/1/2001
2. Thanksgiving at Ground Zero, National Real Estate Investor, [cached]
3. Crushed towers give up cache of gold ingots, TimesOnline, 11/1/02 [cached]
4. Cache of Gold Found at WTC Two truckloads retrieved through a tunnel in rubble2, [cached]
5. , Reuters and New York Daily News, [cached]
 

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This post makes no sense at all

Why would an impact 100+ above ground cause explosions 6 floors below ground?

Be specific

there were all types of reports from when it first happened filled with misinformation. I was watching the original news coverage and there was missiles, bombs, planes, Sonic booms, Multiple planes hitting the same building, Supreme Court and white house bombed all from
people on the scenes. Just because someone felt they heard an explosion under them doesn’t mean it actually happened. With all the chaos going on who’s to say that you could correctly pinpoint where the explosions were coming from? There is a pretty long video of the firefighters in the lobby of the tower for a long time gearing up and planning. If there were explosions from below them I’m pretty sure they would have reacted differently. They were calm because the only thing going on was a fire above them. I’m not saying I believe the story 100% but I can’t 100% say there was a bomb with no proof when scientifically a scenario where it could have collapsed from the heat has been put out there. There are studies on eyewitnesses in general and how their story doesn’t always equal to the exact truth. Whether it’s due to the shock of the situation, bad memory or straight up lying.
 

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there were all types of reports from when it first happened filled with misinformation. I was watching the original news coverage and there was missiles, bombs, planes, Sonic booms, Multiple planes hitting the same building, Supreme Court and white house bombed all from
people on the scenes. Just because someone felt they heard an explosion under them doesn’t mean it actually happened. With all the chaos going on who’s to say that you could correctly pinpoint where the explosions were coming from? There is a pretty long video of the firefighters in the lobby of the tower for a long time gearing up and planning. If there were explosions from below them I’m pretty sure they would have reacted differently. They were calm because the only thing going on was a fire above them. I’m not saying I believe the story 100% but I can’t 100% say there was a bomb with no proof when scientifically a scenario where it could have collapsed from the heat has been put out there. There are studies on eyewitnesses in general and how their story doesn’t always equal to the exact truth. Whether it’s due to the shock of the situation, bad memory or straight up lying.
In that exact same video of those firefighter you can hear explosions

The firefighters themselves said so, and at the end of the day i trust the word of trained professional witness over people on the internet utilizing "arguments from incredulity"

If you know anything about the event, you know that MOST credible witnesses, both inside the buildings and on the street, testified hearing and feeling explosions from beneath them

Many news channels recorded explosions while covering the event but those news stories and vidoes have since been scrubbed
 

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Many news channels recorded explosions while covering the event but those news stories and vidoes have since been scrubbed
I used to have the videos with the explosions in them and the original Styles P Aliyah diss but my uncle's mechanics stole them out of the car when i took it in for a tune up
 
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